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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2024, 11:19:45 AM »

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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2024, 06:34:26 PM »

TeslaTap has designed a NACS conversion kit for the Zero SR/S. They should be available to the public soon. The kit allows from BOTH NACS and J-1772 chargers up to 19.7kW... https://www.myteslatap.com/nacs13.jpg   https://www.myteslatap.com/nacs6.jpg

How is that any different than the existing TeslaTap mini? It's not like it can convert the DC Power from a Supercharger to the AC required by the SR/S. Is there something special about the SR/S we don't know about?
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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2024, 08:59:53 PM »

Wow, a shill for a company selling stuff,  whuda thunkit.

There are adapters out there from a few companies now.

Personally Id rather have the CCS1 and the 100 dollar adapter.  This way I can use BOTH stations.  If you get just the tesla fixture, then you are pretty much obligated to just his stations.... UNLESS..... you want to buy the 100 dollar converter to use CCS too.

pay peter or pay paul, in the end you'll need a fairly reasonably priced adapter one way or another.  I can not see a charger owner spending a few thousand to put a new cable / system into his stuff out of HIS pockets when he can just tell YOU to pay the few dollars to make it work, if you want to use his rig.

Aaron

Aron,

Unfortunately, there is no way to use a CCS1 type charger as they deliver DC voltage rather than AC even if you had a CCS1 connector on your bike. 

Currently there is no way to use DC voltage to charge any ZERO bikes.  I am sure that in the future as DC chargers become more available ZERO will change out the charging system on their bikes so that DC charging will be available as well as the current AC charging system.

This conversion makes it possible to charge from any of the over 40,000 Tesla Mobil connectors, Wall Connectors, and Destination Chargers (even if locked to Tesla Only) without needing any adapters AND still have the ability to use any J-1772 chargers that you may be using now.

I have been making TeslaTap adapters for many years now so you can charge from NACS (Tesla) chargers.

I am also an owner of a ZERO SR/S myself and decided to manufacture a conversion kit with the Tesla bypass system so that it is built in the bike rather than using a TeslaTap adapter.

If you just want to use an adapter, the only US made and approved "TeslaTap ZERO" adapter is available from your local ZERO dealership. All of the other adapters available are manufactured offshore and do not have the TeslaTap bypass circuit. 
« Last Edit: May 15, 2024, 10:07:37 PM by TeslaTap »
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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2024, 09:05:59 PM »

Still, it's polite to introduce yourself first, not just dive in first post, shilling a product, no intro, background, nothing. 
Too many spammers do that. 
If he's a legit company, let people KNOW that, that you ARE a rep and a reliable / respectable source of info.
Hearing YOU talk about no hostility?  Oh that's rich!

Aaron

My intension was to let the group know that the conversion would be available soon.
I assumed that the Name TeslaTap on my signature line would exhibit that I am TeslaTap and not some spammer.
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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2024, 09:22:57 PM »

TeslaTap has designed a NACS conversion kit for the Zero SR/S. They should be available to the public soon. The kit allows from BOTH NACS and J-1772 chargers up to 19.7kW... https://www.myteslatap.com/nacs13.jpg   https://www.myteslatap.com/nacs6.jpg

How is that any different than the existing TeslaTap mini? It's not like it can convert the DC Power from a Supercharger to the AC required by the SR/S. Is there something special about the SR/S we don't know about?

No, it would not be much different than using the TeslaTap adapter except that waiting for the bypass to operate (up to 30 seconds on Gen II Wall Connectors and Destination Chargers) would be automatic.
When you plug in the Tesla Charging handle you will hear a beep to inform you that it is inserted correctly and then beep again once the bypass circuit has completed its operation and starts passing voltage to the bike.

I am also working on a DC charging system for the ZERO but it is a very large endeavor and still quite a while out.
 
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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2024, 03:33:12 AM »

Thank you for the clarification TeslaTap.
Yes your name does look like something 'techy' but unfortunately in today's world your name does not mean much at first glance.,  Any clown can call themselves anything they want, and as long as they are the first one to sign up on that forum, they got the name.

TeslaTapSales  says,    Aaron is correct, and I got a gizmo to sell you, for 10 percent off !!

anyways back to the topic sort of....

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The AC will ultimate HAVE to change it to DC to go into the battery, no way around that.    What if you took that DC and using an SSR setup just chopped it going into the AC charger?  Kind of a cheezy way around but might work somewhat?

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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2024, 04:32:26 AM »

One important thing to remember is sure, products may exist out there that already accomplish the goal, like a giant DC-DC converter. But is it something that can fit on an EV? Is it IP67 water resistant, shockproof, and vibration resistant? Most of the times these are things meant to be on the ground or racks etc, not meant for the rigors of roads full of potholes and rain showers. And also needs to be as compact as possible.
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Re: Will Zero switch to NACS?
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2024, 07:08:41 AM »

Yah thats the thing Morgan,  Id have to actually look at it, but in it's simplest form, a SSR rated for 40 amp? or whatever you are throwing would be about the size of a larger pack of cigs or cigars.  Could possibly share the heat sink or one of it's own.  SInce there really is no converting needed in that voltages have to change, it's just a driven on / off to chop the incoming, and no inductive kick so to say to have to absorb on breaking, it might be fairly easy.  Maybe a PWM with the on and off to regulate it since in theory, the rectifier in the real charger, only half of it's gonna get hot now, and probably a bit hotter, .. it'd need a good look at but, just a concept to ponder on.  Itd fit in a bag like bringing your own cord would.  in theory... anyways.  Thank you for the inputs.

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