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[DonTom]

My 2018 dual motor long range has 65k miles on her. Daily charge limit set to 80%. I have no idea how long I can actually go on a full charge. I have completed 8 trips going from Maryland to Florida and back. (my sister is wife of Florida man). What I do know is the cars range outlasts my bladder and finishes charging before I am ready to continue most times.

One of these days I'll make the trip on the Energica.

I also keep my 2018 Tesla plugged in for 80% SOC.  Tesla drops almost 1% SOC per day which is really bad. My 2022 Chevy Bolt drops nothing at all in a month or more. While I have to leave the Tesla plugged in most of the time because of the lack of use, I do not even bother to plug in my Chevy Bolt for the same amount of time unused.


I like the Chevy Bolt better than my Tesla for many reasons, but for a long trip, the Tesla would be best, IMO, as they have the best charging network of all. And a great navigation system to find them.


A few reasons why I like the Bolt better overall, for most of my driving:


1. As I explained above about can leave the car unplugged with no noticeable discharge.


2. Better FOB. Just keep it in my pocket and do anything without pressing a button, open any door, drive, unlike the Tesla where I have to press a button to do anything (and the Tesla FOB costs extra, two FOBS come with the Bolt).


3. Control regen as I drive with a level on the steering wheel. Only on the Bolt.


4. Progressive regen with brake pedal. The harder I brake the more regen (Tesla adds nothing with brake pedal <neither does Energica, but Zero does).


5. KW added or lost shown on screen while driving (Tesla only shows a line, no current KW used or gained on display).


6. Front and rear cameras can be viewed while parking the Chevy Bolt. Only rear on Tesla.


7. Chevy Bolt blind spot indicator is in the mirror, where it is very easy to see. On the Tesla it's on the screen which means take your eyes off the road to view your blind spot. But the Tesla will prevent steering into a car in the blind spot with its accident prevention stuff. And that works very well. Please don't ask how I know.


8. The Bolt has a steering wheel heater. The Tesla does not. Both have seat heaters.


I find the Chevy more fun to drive than the Tesla. But they are both great cars, IMO.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Starpower]

Don, I was asking if you have ever charged to 100% and what was the range DISPLAYED. I'm not asking what driving range you get, but instead what range is shown at the end of a 100% charge? It's claimed to be 311 miles but I've never seen over 285. This is a 9% loss in under 30K miles. Tesla claims a 12% loss at 200K miles.

[DonTom]

Don, I was asking if you have ever charged to 100% and what was the range DISPLAYED. I'm not asking what driving range you get, but instead what range is shown at the end of a 100% charge? It's claimed to be 311 miles but I've never seen over 285. This is a 9% loss in under 30K miles. Tesla claims a 12% loss at 200K miles.

Yes, it is a little less, but that is because of the reserve. You can drive below 0 SOC for several miles. Perhaps for 26 miles in your case. If you count that, you will have your 311 miles.


But IAC, do not expect 100% accuracy with any of this stuff, but it should be close enough to be within reason.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Starpower]

Thanks Don, that makes sense. A Tesla tech also told me that the displayed range is based on your driving habits. Being that 95% of my driving is at 60-72 mph I can now understand the hit on EPA range. Love the car, but Tesla decideing to eliminate Resume for cruize control is shocking!

[DonTom]

Thanks Don, that makes sense. A Tesla tech also told me that the displayed range is based on your driving habits. Being that 95% of my driving is at 60-72 mph I can now understand the hit on EPA range. Love the car, but Tesla decideing to eliminate Resume for cruize control is shocking!

Not really. My 2018 has no resume, but I like the way the right little wheel works on the steering to adjust the cruise control to any speed you like without turning off the cruise control.  As good as the interactive cruise control on my Chevy Bolt, IMO.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

Thanks Don, that makes sense. A Tesla tech also told me that the displayed range is based on your driving habits. Being that 95% of my driving is at 60-72 mph I can now understand the hit on EPA range.

Yes, that also. In my 2018 LR, AWD Tesla M3, my average "miles of range left" is usually three times the SOC %. IOW, 90 miles of range left at 30% SOC.


The EPA Tesla spec is based on level ground, no wind, 65 MPH. IIRC, the very best range is at 38MPH, then around 420 miles.


-Don-  Reno, NV