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DonTom

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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2023, 10:52:40 AM »

It's the same MXJ. They changed the pin configuration massively after 2014 because they added a bunch of new functionality.
Well, that messes up that idea anyway unless the red and gray wires have the same functionality on the 2014 as on my 2017.


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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2023, 03:31:18 PM »

It's the same MXJ. They changed the pin configuration massively after 2014 because they added a bunch of new functionality.
Well, that messes up that idea anyway unless the red and gray wires have the same functionality on the 2014 as on my 2017.


-Don-  Reno, NV
There are no red and gray wires in my connector, you see. I attach a photo of the standard charger (OBC). This device is dying slowly. To date, the maximum voltage that it is capable of producing when charging is 110V DC
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2023, 03:36:08 PM »

This is what my connector looks like at the output of a standard charger (OBC)
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2023, 09:57:17 PM »

This is what my connector looks like at the output of a standard charger (OBC)
Only three wires?  I doubt if you will be able to do the modification to keep the key out and charge without using the OBC.


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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2023, 10:57:30 PM »

This is what my connector looks like at the output of a standard charger (OBC)
Only three wires?  I doubt if you will be able to do the modification to keep the key out and charge without using the OBC.


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It is sad
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2023, 01:06:10 AM »


It is sad
What is the issue of not wanting to keep the OBC on? How many KW is your external charger?


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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2023, 02:25:42 AM »


It is sad
What is the issue of not wanting to keep the OBC on? How many KW is your external charger?


-Don-  Reno, NV
I do not know how many kW is left in it, it charges the battery to 110 V DC. But you will have to drive and laugh together with a regular dying charger so that an external additional device can also function
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2023, 03:42:41 AM »

I do not know how many kW is left in it, it charges the battery to 110 V DC. But you will have to drive and laugh together with a regular dying charger so that an external additional device can also function
What type of external charger is it?


And even if your OBC goes dead, as long as the contactor still closes, you will be able to use an external charger with your key out.


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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2023, 12:13:52 PM »

I do not know how many kW is left in it, it charges the battery to 110 V DC. But you will have to drive and laugh together with a regular dying charger so that an external additional device can also function
What type of external charger is it?


And even if your OBC goes dead, as long as the contactor still closes, you will be able to use an external charger with your key out.


-Don-  Reno, NV
I have already posted photos of my custom charger in one of the topics on this forum
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2023, 12:16:08 PM »

Custom charger
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2023, 12:24:08 PM »

Custom charger
Where did you get that thing and are you sure it is programmed correctly for a Zero?


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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2023, 12:34:10 PM »

Custom charger
Where did you get that thing and are you sure it is programmed correctly for a Zero?


-Don-  Reno, NV
This thing is the result of the creativity of one professional who collects chargers of the desired configuration for a specific type of NMC Li-Ion cells. I am absolutely sure that the charger is fully compatible with the type of cells mentioned above. This charger consists of two units, each of which outputs 58 V DC and is used in uninterruptible power supply systems of responsible server racks. The maximum current that this charger is capable of producing is about 34A. The maximum current that my custom battery can accept is 2C (50Ax2). So I'm not worried that something will burn out. The wiring also allows you to withstand a load of 34A
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2023, 12:44:48 PM »

That is my battery pack
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Re: DeltaQ vs OBC charging
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2023, 12:49:30 PM »

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