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[chisquare]

Tested the range of the fob after I had firmware 042 installed yesterday. No chance to use it in a pocket of my pants or jacket. Even if it is placed in the middle of the "tank" of the SS, it does not work consistently. It must be no more than 35 cm from the steering head. And that's with a brand new CR2032 battery. Pathetic.

[smithy]

Tested the range of the fob after I had firmware 042 installed yesterday. No chance to use it in a pocket of my pants or jacket. Even if it is placed in the middle of the "tank" of the SS, it does not work consistently. It must be no more than 35 cm from the steering head. And that's with a brand new CR2032 battery. Pathetic.

Same on my Experia, it has V042 and when riding I have the FOB in the frunk, less than 30cm from the sensor in the dash. On a 50km ride I can see up to 6 "Key Not In Range" faults.

Smithy.

[PWM]

Suggest a quick Keyless range test to verify interference from traction drive...place bike on paddock stand or get the wifey / good buddy to participate because the bike needs to be switched "ON" and motionless w/ side stand up.

Enable running by activating "GO".  Slowly move FOB away from the bike until the out of range alert occurs.

Report back your results.

When motor is turning is when RF emissions occur, the greater the load the greater the interference inclusive of regen.

There's no magic here...software cannot fix the Keyless range functionality unless it ignores it or samples at no load which is a viable approach for future FW updates.

[Specter]

PWM, if there is RFI coming from the motor or inverter, or whatever, pretty much NOTHING is going to fix it besides a more powerful keyfob transmitter.  That would have to be a custom thing, because they all pretty much use the same cheap piece of shit circuit board / xmit circuit in all of them.  Now THAT is going to need a new certification from the FCC, etc etc,  major pain in the ass.  I don't see that happening.

Software CAN fix it, by turning that fkn nag OFF once the bike is in motion.  Ok I start it, I get it in 'go' mode,now turn the GD keyfob error crap OFF until I park it again.  OR... have it activate ONCE, to alert the driver, he acknowledges it and NOW it is deactivated until the bike is parked.    Thinking here is OK, the sob is not talking, stop being like a wife I HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME STOP NAGGING !!!

If it's out of range because you dropped your keys at 60 MPH, guess what, they are NOT going to undrop and FIX that situation, so WHY KEEP TELLING ME !!!   Telling me again 10 miles down the road doesn't do dick, to help me reFIND THEM !!  SHUT UP...

NOW...if you are nagging me and I got my keys in my pocket, then it's a nuisance alarm, STOP SHOWING IT.  Turn it into a NON nuisance alarm.  show it once, it gets ack then leave it alone until bike is RESTARTED.

You said to slowly walk away from the bike until the alarm comes up.  That might not work.   Is there a time delay on how long it has to be out of range?  Let's say there is a 30 second delay.  You go out of range at say 4 seconds / 5 feet from the bike but won't know until you are 50 feet from the bike.  May not be very helpful info.

Why is it that some of the things that are really simple fixes, are the ones that are almost impossible to get anyone to work on?

Aaron

[PWM]

Software CAN fix it, by turning that fkn nag OFF once the bike is in motion.  Ok I start it, I get it in 'go' mode,now turn the GD keyfob error crap OFF until I park it again.

Aaron

Spot-on, Aaron. 

Energica, are you listening? 

If this was offered I would have no hesitation to update FW.   

[ultrarnr]

Just for a historical perspective on the "key not in range" problem but it was two years ago, April 2021 that I started a post on this problem after seeing after getting my firmware updated. So after two years this problem still hasn't been fixed. At the time the easy fix was to get the old Fw reinstalled which is what I did. Doubt that is still available though. Bottom line is software is not a strong point of Energica's.

See: https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=11027.0