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tonylai

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Problems on throttle and motors
« on: July 21, 2021, 06:06:02 PM »

I'm using one throttle to active two controllers which control two hub motors that are support by two independent batteries but common ground.
There both has a switch between battery and controller.
The wiring is like: (sorry for the ugly drawing)

My problem is when I turn on the switch of Battery 2, which powers the Controller 2, the Motor 2 just start to speed up without spinning the throttle.
The problem won't happened if I turn on the switch of Battery 1.
Can anyone tell me why?
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reini

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Re: Problems on throttle and motors
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2021, 06:42:40 PM »

Are the 5V for the throttle provided by battery 1? The throttle input might be undefined as long as the 5V are not provided. What happens if you power on both batteries/controllers?
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Re: Problems on throttle and motors
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2021, 04:32:02 PM »

More likely is because you're missing the 5V when connecting only that battery.

Unless recommended by the manufacturer of the controllers, I will not connect them straight to one throttle, some kind of interface that will keep the inputs of the 2 controller separated should be used.

Just my $0.02
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Re: Problems on throttle and motors
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2021, 09:17:56 PM »

Tony,

I can't tell you what the problem is without more information.  I need to see the electronic schematic for what components you are combining, and, in the case that you have a wiring error, I would need to probe your wiring with a VOM.  No biggie; just details.

I don't know if you are using a bistable throttle, like you see on commercial scooters, or a proportional throttle controller like you see on a Zero.  My guess is the latter, which would mean that you will need to diode isolate the two speed controller inputs from each other, or one will find an unintentional electrical path through the other. 

Another likely problem would be that you think the 2 speed controllers are independent, but they are sharing the same chassis ground (metal frame of the bike) which can lead to unintended electrical paths.

But the most likely problem of all is usually that there is just a wiring error somewhere, or a short.  I can show you how to find these things quickly with a voltmeter.  But the most important thing is to know what we are looking at.

If you are feeding the same proportional throttle signal to 2 speed controllers -- even if they are precisely the same model of speed controller -- one will "current hog" and steal the lion's share of the electrical current from the throttle.  Because of the non-linear nature of dominant current paths, current-hogging is an effect which takes place and causes problems even if you have perfectly matched components -- for example transistors or diodes.  One will randomly draw slightly more current, and as it becomes dominant. it will become an even more efficient current path of least resistance, and hog even more current.  Hence:  "current hogging."

How is your project going?
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