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Author Topic: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???  (Read 1731 times)

Richard230

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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2021, 04:11:51 AM »

Looks like it's been discontinued. I have to wonder why.




-Don-  Auburn, CA

That is too bad. It certainly is a wonderful design and one that I had never seen before or since.  ??? I guess the company went out of business but someone must still have the rights to the patent and is hanging on to it.  :(
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2021, 07:56:24 AM »

I readjusted my old Pitt Bull rear wheel stand today and lifted the back wheel of my SR/S without any difficulty by myself. 

I know many if not most of you old pros already know this, and I should have since I have used wheel stands before, but for the record here goes: -

Starting with my SR/S resting on the sidestand, then just slid in the rear wheel stand and pushed down on the handle and the bike righted itself and up it went.  When lowering the bike I gently pulled up the wheel stand lever while holding a hand on the bike and gently pushed the bike over to the side stand  side for a perfect landing.

A bit nervous the first time but did this a couple of times without difficulty, no help around and none needed.  Being a bit heavy might have helped!

Unfortunately my old front wheel stand does not look like it will work on the Zero because of the shape of the bottom of the forks, think I need a pin support there.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2021, 11:03:48 AM »

Harbor Freight has something quite similar.

https://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html

I just went there and bought what they had on the shelf.  Not even this fancy.

-Crissa
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2021, 11:14:16 AM »

Harbor Freight has something quite similar.

https://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html

I just went there and bought what they had on the shelf.  Not even this fancy.

-Crissa
I own the one in the link and several others. I have yet to try to use any of them.


My Zeros are easy to get the tires off by a simple Black Widow Lift.  I am not sure what I will do when I need to change the front tire on my Energica. I have 6K miles on it and the front tire looks like it will need to be replaced in the next 500 miles or so. The rear tire still looks fine.


I can remember the days when the front tire would last twice as long as the rear. Over the years, that changed to be the opposite.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2021, 08:31:51 PM »

Harbor Freight has something quite similar.

https://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html

I just went there and bought what they had on the shelf.  Not even this fancy.

-Crissa
I own the one in the link and several others. I have yet to try to use any of them.


My Zeros are easy to get the tires off by a simple Black Widow Lift.  I am not sure what I will do when I need to change the front tire on my Energica. I have 6K miles on it and the front tire looks like it will need to be replaced in the next 500 miles or so. The rear tire still looks fine.


I can remember the days when the front tire would last twice as long as the rear. Over the years, that changed to be the opposite.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

I have had similar tire wear experiences as you have had, Don. Most radial tires that I have seen lately only have about 4mm of tread when new. No wonder they wear out fast, especially on heavy motorcycles that put a lot of load on the tires when braking and going around corners. The tire manufacturers seem to spend more time developing rear tires that have longer lives than they do front tires.

I am not sure how you would remove the front wheel on an Energica, other than using a front wheel stand that has a pin that get inserted into the bottom of the fork pivot.  ???
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2021, 09:31:36 PM »

I have had similar tire wear experiences as you have had, Don. Most radial tires that I have seen lately only have about 4mm of tread when new. No wonder they wear out fast, especially on heavy motorcycles that put a lot of load on the tires when braking and going around corners. The tire manufacturers seem to spend more time developing rear tires that have longer lives than they do front tires.
I think the new soft  front tires is part of the reason why new bikes handle much better than older bikes, so it's not all bad news. But since I ride like much like a little old lady, I would rather have tires that last! :) .


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2021, 10:14:13 PM »

I have had similar tire wear experiences as you have had, Don. Most radial tires that I have seen lately only have about 4mm of tread when new. No wonder they wear out fast, especially on heavy motorcycles that put a lot of load on the tires when braking and going around corners. The tire manufacturers seem to spend more time developing rear tires that have longer lives than they do front tires.
I think the new soft  front tires is part of the reason why new bikes handle much better than older bikes, so it's not all bad news. But since I ride like much like a little old lady, I would rather have tires that last! :) .


-Don-  Auburn, CA

Me too. Especially considering the hassle of removing wheels and changing tires.   ;)
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2021, 12:18:59 AM »

Service rep said that I can expect between 6 to 9 thousand miles out of my tires depending on how I ride.  That is less than I got out of my ICE bikes, but the traction seems much better.

Sounds like new tires every other year or so.
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Re: How to lift a Zero SR/S ???
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2021, 04:14:09 AM »

Service rep said that I can expect between 6 to 9 thousand miles out of my tires depending on how I ride.  That is less than I got out of my ICE bikes, but the traction seems much better.

Sounds like new tires every other year or so.

I just changed the Pirelli Rosso II rear tire of my 2018 Zero S with Power tank. It lasted for 9K miles, but the front tire of the same brand and type only lasted 5K miles.  :( That Power Tank weight must really make life tough on the front tire. I am now using more air in the Michelin Street Radial front tire that replaced it than recommended by Zero and it seems to be wearing much slower than the Pirelli.
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