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[MyFirstElectric]

This is my first real post here  Hello!

I only just bought my first electric vehicle overall, last night. I haven't received it yet. I have a week or so to buy the additional components that - ideally - I would have wanted from the start...

Do you know of a quality kit, offering matching hub motor and controller?
I am interested to buy a (minimum) 3000W RATED motor. QS are a great quality brand. The QS205 or QS260 seem good enough for what I want/need here. RATED: A 3000W rated, quality, motor will easily output 7kW continuous, and 20kW peak power. When combined with a controller of equal quality. Fardriver are a great quality brand. The 72300 (battery current 100A, phase current 300A) seems good enough for what I want/need here.

Why I want to upgrade the purchased bike?
It's not mountainous here, but hilly, and many driveways have a steep gradient. The other day I measured a steep one that goes up to my local mechanic, and it is 23°. This requires 250A phase current (at the weight of this scooter and myself). An ordinary Chinese scooter and motorbike alike does not have quality components of this degree, I know this already before I have received the scooter. And, I know it comes with only one 60V 20Ah battery, which is nothing, so to speak. At the very, very, very minimum I need here 60V 40Ah (and then motor and controller will get hot quickly still). Initially, I was going to buy a similar one as in the photo, but of far greater quality (EU build, not Chinese) and running at 78V 36Ah/54Ah. That one would have been fantastic here (anywhere). But they can't deliver currently (warzone). I hope to buy my next electric vehicle from them soon?

While, this Chinese manufacturer (seemingly one of the higher end of Chinese quality, as per what I was able to investigate), they haven't even responded what the space measurements of the various battery locations are (seen my cool, pictured, question I sent them?). So, I still can't buy additional batteries until I can measure those spaces myself, it seems. By that time that I receive this scooter, I might as well have gotten to the point of putting together my own battery pack for this scooter. We'll see. It would be my first such thing to do.

I preferably want to run LiFePo4. Has anyone run an electric hub motor and matching controller on LiFePo4 (LFP)? What Ah and V are you running it on? What is your experience, would you do it again?

I live offgrid, solely run on solar power and LiFePo4 batteries, so I have sufficient DC experience (though, in my house I actually installed both circuits, AC and DC, to have flexibility for all my kitchen appliances). 

Anyway, now you know what I am up to. How about you?

[Specter]

Well, at least the AI's are getting better.

there is a website:  hydrogenappliances.com  that sells wierd and off the wall stuff like this.

you could also do a google search on manta motor or pancake motor and find many interesting items like what you are looking for.

Good luck.

Aaron

[TheRan]

It's not an AI, English just isn't his first language

[MyFirstElectric]

there is a website:  hydrogenappliances.com  that sells wierd and off the wall stuff like this. you could also do a google search on manta motor or pancake motor and find many interesting items like what you are looking for. Aaron

Thanks Aaron! Interesting website indeed. (i also like when folks stick to traditional web design  ) Am checking out all of that as we speak.

It's not an AI, English just isn't his first language

No idea what you meant to say, but English is my first language and I rarely make grammar mistakes. 
AI? Means Artifical Intelligence: not since ChatGPT, but since Haley Joel Osment starred in ... A.I.!! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/
 

Thank you 

PS: I MUST watch it again, can't remember now that Jude Law was in it also!? 

PPS: simple machines forum software allows for much clearer, cooler, and more, emojies. If I stick around I will find out how to contact the webmaster and ask him/ suggest it. (I know, 'cause I used simple machines on a site two decades ago) 

[Specter]

I use simple machines on my website and agree, it's easy to use.  F the emoji's  fuckin kids need to speak using words, not poofter pictures.

Good luck on the website owner here, many have tried to contact to no avail it appears.  Which is kind of strange, as in, who's paying the hosting bill if this individual is indeed dead?   

That hydrogen appliances site been around forever, and generally has a lot of neat stuff.  A lot is no longer sold which is a shame but on the motors, it's a good starting place.  You might want to check golf cart shops too like EZ Go.  While that specific application may not be quite where you want to go, it might lead you back to where you can find the controller's etc you need. 

Another store,  altenergystore.com  has solar and alternative energy stuff.  I don't think they have motors anymore but I have called them in the past (they are another place thats been around since the turn of the century) and they have been able to point me in the right direction.   All the misc crap you might need, connectors, Anderson plugs, they tend to have, and batteries too if you are looking Lithium.

Finally one other place that has a lot of oddball stuff AND will do projects with you, consulting etc. and gets into this a lot is
https://www.powerstream.com/

Either way they have a ton of nerdy stuff that's neat to drool over

Aaron

[MyFirstElectric]

Speaking of bike specs (and to get my 4th post, lol):

So, the Chinese lady did reply now (her "email box was full, sorry!") and under the seat fits only a smaller battery unfortunately.
Not this baby, which I already have in my basket: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805945579164.html

And I am getting the Fardriver 72360. But this one through an EU account: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005475758109.html

PS: Wondering why through different sites, and different accounts?
Is financial whizz    Always check where things are cheapest, and in which currency. Example above, in USD it's 530, in GBP 472, in EUR 632. MAN! What a difference! Hence Seenruys biggest I'll buy through the US site in USD, and the Fardriver 72360 through the .com site in EUR.     Saves me HUNDREDS.

PPS: Never assume an IP reveals location. For the past 30ys already, I only ever use the web with auto-switching vpn. For security. Besides, it is insulting to charge customers different prices depending on where you're coming from, what your skin color is, your sexual orientation, your religion, your ...., is NO ONE's business. 

The only thing that should matter: What e-bike you ride. 

[Specter]

Don't forget customs fees and tarriffs.

A lot of that price difference might be those taxes being added on to the final price.   Shipping too.

Aaron

[MyFirstElectric]

Woah getting my 5th post within nanoseconds. 

Thanks Aaron. And I share the sadness to hear of any webmaster's demise. I am one of those too (fucked up by google, to use teeny's language who swear on emojies)    Webmaster is a mega tough life these days, unfortunately. Shit facebook, instagram, whatspp and all their other possessions...    Forums are WAY cooler! And more genuine conversations too.

Yeah, Alte, altenergystore.com, is great, I agree. Amy in particular, love her humble wisdom.

powerstream.com, thanks, another traditional site, awesome!  Reminds me massively of a solar genius site that I currently can't recall the url of, but has the same design and been around for decades. May be the same owner.

So, the news is: Chinese tracking shows I get the e-bike Monday already!    No battery and no controller is gonna arrive that fast, unfortunately. So I'll have to whizz around on 60V 20Ah initially. Meaning: it may struggle, or fail, to get up the hill here. LOL
We'll see.

[MyFirstElectric]

Don't forget customs fees and tarriffs.

A lot of that price difference might be those taxes being added on to the final price.   Shipping too.

Aaron

Yes, I have been around for ages, I know that stuff, but thanks. I wish I was young too, believe me.
As for shipping, Ali is quite good at that, finally. Looks like they, finally, learned from amazon. 'cause mother Alibaba still is crap on that topic.

[MyFirstElectric]

So, I order this cute baby today, allegedly to arrive next month already:

Now I have just got to figure out how to connect the many wires.... 

[MyFirstElectric]

Update:
The lovely vendor (some Chinese guy on Ali) of the Fardriver 72360 informed me:
The Android version of the respective app is unstable, better to use the Apple version.
Hope this helps anyone.