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[BigPoppa]

Anyone fitted a 190/50 rear onto their Energica? I’m wondering about the following:

• Any clearance issues with the swingarm or rear frame when the shock is fully compressed?
• Any significant impact to range?
• Any impact on the speedometer beyond what’s already there (i.e. mine tends to read 5mph high at speeds above 50-55mph)?
• Any issues with the warranty?

Unless there’s a reason not to I’ll probably make the switch the next time I need new tires.

[DonTom]

Unless there’s a reason not to I’ll probably make the switch the next time I need new tires.

What's the best way to get the wheels off the ground to remove them from our Energica SS9s?

-Don-  Reno, NV

[BigPoppa]

I don't know if it's the best way but I've always just used a rear wheel stand to remove rear tires. Obviously a front stand is required for the front tire but usually those require a model specific pin for the triple tree unless you're comfortable with the front wheel stands that lift from the bottom of the forks (I'm not).

[Sklith]

I haven't put my Ego on my Pitbull rear stand yet. I saw a video by NewZeroland recently where he said that it's pretty tough to put the bike up on a rear stand. Is it really that bad?

[BigPoppa]

Well...I've used my rear stand a couple of dozen times and I did drop the bike once when using a generic stand. Luckily an office chair was sitting next to it and caught it long enough to keep it from hitting the ground. You definitely feel the weight when you're doing a panic lift to get it upright again.

After dropping it, I picked up a PitBull stand and haven't had an issue since although I'm also more careful now as well.

If you don't feel comfortable holding/balancing a 600+ pound bike upright with one hand on the seat then it's definitely a 2 person job.

[Sklith]

I never had an issue with putting my CBR600RR up so whats a couple hundred more pounds gonna do? heh

[most]

BP, what do you expect to gain?
I‘d see two negative aspects: The accuracy will most probably drop a bit and the lean angle will increase for identical turns because the tyre contact point changes. Again just a bit...

[Demoni]

I haven't put my Ego on my Pitbull rear stand yet. I saw a video by NewZeroland recently where he said that it's pretty tough to put the bike up on a rear stand. Is it really that bad?

It depends on what Pitbull stand you have. I find it very easy to lift the bike up with the standard U shaped stand and I'm an average guy (5'10" 190lbs).
However if you have the one armed forward folding stand it's a bear of a job. Not sure why it's so much harder but Pitbull sells a extender arm for that style of rear stand.

I toss the bikes on and off stands all the time but I would highly suggest you have someone spot you the first few times till you get the technique down. Once the bike is off the side stand and at the balance point a hand on the passenger seat is all that is needed to steady the bike... However if the bike starts to tip a bit towards the left side your going to have a bad day. Also when taking the bike off the rear stand I put the kickstand down and turn the bars to the left, this way the bike will tip to the left and the side stand will catch it.

[Demoni]

Anyone fitted a 190/50 rear onto their Energica?

Have not had a 190/50 on the bikes however I can share what I know about a 200/60 Pirelli Superbike slick.
Please note that the above tire was mounted on a 6" rim not the standard 5.5". The narrower rim will squeeze the tire, causing a taller tire profile. 190 tires are intended for 6" rims.

Really good article focusing on the 180 vs 190 debate.
https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rider/does-size-matter/

As for clearance issues (again I can only speak about the 200 size). The rear fender is very close to the tire and due to concerns of the tire growing at speed and rubbing it was removed. Also a small notch was trimmed in the chain guard where it interfered with the edge of the tire.

The speed displayed on the dash is affected by different diameter tires so you will need to keep that in mind.

[BigPoppa]

Thanks for the feedback folks. I was thinking about going to a 190 to slow the turn in a bit. I’m probably the exception where I don’t like a bike that drops too easily into corners.

In over 20 years, I didn’t make the association that even going up one step on a wheel designed for a 180 series tire could alter the geometry that much but after reading the Cycle World article I understand better the difference in handling making such a change creates. You learn something new everyday.

Also, the clearance was something I was cautious about since I’ve had clearance issues on previous bikes prevent me from change the tire size.

All said, I’ll stick with the 180 fitted to the bike.

[MoneyFor]

I think it is the best choice to stick with the 180, with a 190 on the oem rim your bike will tilt even faster when cornering because the tire will become more rounder.

[Goetzuwe]

180/55 ZR 17 vs 190/50 ZR 17
Makes a difference of 1,3% and the ground clearance is 0.4 cm less.
In Germany. A tire combination is permitted where there is a maximum of 1.5% difference.