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Pat Cat

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Charging Lights
« on: July 28, 2019, 02:52:59 AM »

I have a 2016 Zero SR, a couple months ago when I plug the charger in the status lights never change. The dash will show 100% and everything seems to be working fine. Even after (4) days the lights never change.
Do I have a problem?

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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2019, 03:08:15 AM »

I have a 2016 Zero SR, a couple months ago when I plug the charger in the status lights never change. The dash will show 100% and everything seems to be working fine. Even after (4) days the lights never change.
Do I have a problem?
I don't understand what you're asking.

Plug in a Delta Q charger?  I cannot tell what I am looking at in your video. Is that a Quick charger light?

At 100%, there is nothing to charge, at lease after the contractor opens.  What is it that  you're expecting to change?

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2019, 05:25:31 AM »

Sorry, I'm talking about the BMS Flash Code Patterns (Charge Mode). Looking at the battery percentage on the dash display - it is at 40%. I plug the bike into the wall outlet. After approximately 6 hours the dash display will show 100% but the BMS flash code shows whats on the video. Never changes even after 4 or 5 days of leaving the bike plugged in. It use to show the 1 Red, 2 Green, 3 Green, 4 Green, On for 5 seconds then off for a second. According to the manual that means it's 100% charged. My flash code never changes always shows the same flashing lights
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2019, 05:55:54 AM »

Sorry, I'm talking about the BMS Flash Code Patterns (Charge Mode). Looking at the battery percentage on the dash display - it is at 40%. I plug the bike into the wall outlet. After approximately 6 hours the dash display will show 100% but the BMS flash code shows whats on the video. Never changes even after 4 or 5 days of leaving the bike plugged in. It use to show the 1 Red, 2 Green, 3 Green, 4 Green, On for 5 seconds then off for a second. According to the manual that means it's 100% charged. My flash code never changes always shows the same flashing lights
When you're at 100%, is your contactor open as it should be?  And do you know what your voltage is at 100% SOC indicated?

I am thinking you're not at the full 116.20VDC and never get there, so the bike assumes it is still charging. Have you tried other than the on-board charger?

It could be an indication of your charger not charging up enough, which seems to be a common problem with the on-board chargers. But if you're above 115 VDC, I would not worry too much about it until it starts dropping further down. But you may start finding a lower and lower voltage and then after a while, it may even effect the SOC, and will only charge to 99% then 98%, etc.

What voltage does the Zero Ap say you're at when the SOC says 100%?

My main guess right now is that you're not getting up to 116.2 VDC  at your 100 SOC indicated.


-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2019, 08:52:59 PM »

Had to download the app - never used it before. Bike was at 85% when I plugged it in, took about 2 hours for dash to display 100%. The app readings are Time Until Charged N/A, State of Charge 100%, Charging Amps N/A, Charging Watts N/A, Cell Balance 5, Batter Volts 116. No change to the blinking light status
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2019, 01:33:38 AM »

Had to download the app - never used it before. Bike was at 85% when I plugged it in, took about 2 hours for dash to display 100%. The app readings are Time Until Charged N/A, State of Charge 100%, Charging Amps N/A, Charging Watts N/A, Cell Balance 5, Batter Volts 116. No change to the blinking light status
Looks like it has stopped charging and is close enough to the full 100% charged voltage.
 
However, to get a more exact voltage, either use a good digital voltmeter  on the accessory charger pins above the motor (key on so battery contactor is closed)  or pay a few bucks  for this app.

The charge indicator on the bike dash, is it blinking or solid on when you're fully charged?

But either way, I would not worry about  the BMS blinking light status if no other problems are noticed. At least not yet. I never even look at mine.

Now that you have the app, consider setting your custom mode. I have mine set for the freeway as max speed 85 MPH, torque 85%, brake regen 100% deceleration regen 20%.  Many others prefer 0% here as coasting gives better range than regen at higher speeds, but I notice no difference with coasting on my SR / pwr tank between 0 and 20%, perhaps because it's a bit heavier and goes down hill with a bit more force.

-Don-  Cold Springs Valley, NV
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2019, 03:49:57 AM »

My 2018 S doesn't even have those lights any more. There are no longer any charging inspection ports on the front of the bike. Just a rubber plug covering some sort of small connector (I think) that is completely covered with dielectric grease.  ???
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2019, 09:30:47 PM »


The charge indicator on the bike dash, is it blinking or solid on when you're fully charged?

-Don-  Cold Springs Valley, NV

The light on the dash is solid when 100% charged. Thanks for the help everyone.
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Re: Charging Lights
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2019, 11:52:49 AM »

The light on the dash is solid when 100% charged. Thanks for the help everyone.
It all sounds perfectly normal to me where it counts.

-Don-  Reno, NV
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