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vinceherman

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SR/F observations and questions
« on: June 21, 2019, 12:19:47 AM »

I have owned my SR/F for 28 hours so far.  In that time I have completed 1 1/5 commutes.
Yes, early in the life of a bike, but I wanted to toss out some observations.

The turn signal is a switch that slides side to side.  It is located directly under the larger mode switch that also slides side to side.  Operating the mode switch when intending to make a turn helps nobody.  Even after I caught myself erroneously using the mode switch, I still hit it at the next several uses.  I will continue to concentrate on using the proper switch and train my thumb.

The rear brake does not have as much authority as I expect.  Granted, this is my first sporty bike.  It might be a characteristic of the bike style.  The front brakes *certainly* has authority in abundance.  Does the ABS affect the rear?

I have not yet figured out what data is available from the bike.  What is Ride Capture?  What logs can I get from the bike?
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 12:27:27 AM »

The turn signal is a switch that slides side to side.  It is located directly under the larger mode switch that also slides side to side.  Operating the mode switch when intending to make a turn helps nobody.  Even after I caught myself erroneously using the mode switch, I still hit it at the next several uses.  I will continue to concentrate on using the proper switch and train my thumb.

The rear brake does not have as much authority as I expect.  Granted, this is my first sporty bike.  It might be a characteristic of the bike style.  The front brakes *certainly* has authority in abundance.  Does the ABS affect the rear?


Most of the braking is always in the front--by far--on any bike. Any yes, the ABS has to work with both brakes.

BTW, does the SR/F have self- cancelling turn signals?

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 12:53:01 AM »

What kind of range are you seeing so far?

My new DSR rear brake is shockingly poor as well. 
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vinceherman

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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 02:00:13 AM »

DonTom, no self cancelling signals.
Jarrett, range is still being determined. (table edited to reduce number of rows)
DateTimeODOTripSoCLocationCharge timeSoC after
6/19/201911:30 AM697Cleveland Moto
6/19/201912:27 PM423657Work573
6/19/20196:36 PM8139?Bill's1:20?
6/19/20199:15 PM1001940Home?100
6/20/20198:49 AM1434345Work?100
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 02:16:52 AM by vinceherman »
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 02:47:07 AM »

So like 80 miles a charge?
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 03:14:56 AM »

My SRF signal cancels but it takes over 60 seconds:)
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 03:36:02 AM »

As mentioned above, front brakes are usually 75% of any vehicle.
If you have ever looked at the breaks, you will see how much larger the front
rotors are vs the rear. Also why you still see drums on the rear. Rear is usually
best for keeping the bike from rolling while stopped
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 03:42:44 AM »

My SRF signal cancels but it takes over 60 seconds:)
That's better than my 2017 SR or DS. Many times I have rode several miles before I noticed they were still on.

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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2019, 03:55:30 AM »

I have owned my SR/F for 28 hours so far.  In that time I have completed 1 1/5 commutes.
Yes, early in the life of a bike, but I wanted to toss out some observations.

The turn signal is a switch that slides side to side.  It is located directly under the larger mode switch that also slides side to side.  Operating the mode switch when intending to make a turn helps nobody.  Even after I caught myself erroneously using the mode switch, I still hit it at the next several uses.  I will continue to concentrate on using the proper switch and train my thumb.

The rear brake does not have as much authority as I expect.  Granted, this is my first sporty bike.  It might be a characteristic of the bike style.  The front brakes *certainly* has authority in abundance.  Does the ABS affect the rear?

I have not yet figured out what data is available from the bike.  What is Ride Capture?  What logs can I get from the bike?

As noted in another recent thread, the rear brake will seem very weak with abs as opposed to the front brake because it doesnt take alot to lockup the rear. Turn off the abs and youll see what i mean.
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 06:52:22 PM »

Economy numbers
DateTimeODOTripSoCLocationCharge timeSoC after
6/19/201911:30 AM697Cleveland Moto
6/19/201912:27 PM423657Work573
6/19/20196:36 PM8139?Bill's1.333?
6/19/20199:15 PM1001940Home?100
6/20/20198:49 AM1434345Work?100
6/20/201920:321753258Home4100
6/21/20198:202154058Work389
6/21/201911:30218386Don Ramon
6/21/201912:30221381Work2.25100

Some notes on my ride in today.  I jumped on the highway, moved into the high speed lane and kept up with traffic.  Some time 77.  Some times 10.
Edit: went to lunch
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 11:18:06 PM by vinceherman »
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2019, 09:51:30 PM »

what is your commute like for speeds?
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vinceherman

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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2019, 10:57:03 PM »

what is your commute like for speeds?

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Some time 77.  Some times 10.

Seriously, there are times if you are only doing 75, you are a hazard.
Much of the time, it is only a few mph over the limit.
Construction and traffic frequently bring speeds way down.
I keep up with traffic.  If there is someone in the left lane who is not keeping up with the traffic in front of them, I go around.
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vinceherman

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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2019, 01:45:47 AM »

Oh, another observation.
The mirrors are not far enough outboard for me.  If I have them aimed in far enough to see the lane behind me, I mostly see my own elbows.
On my bicycle I have bar-end mirrors and can see around my own fat body.  I am going to have to look around for a solution that moves the mirrors further out.
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2019, 06:58:09 PM »

Another observation.  My Scorpion half helmet, while more comfortable in the summer temps, sucks at higher highway speeds.  It does an impersonation of a wing and tries to fly off my head at anything above 70.
I am either going to wear my modular HJC, get a windscreen or tuck in to the slower lanes for my commute.

To continue my reporting of economy, here is the latest additions to my spreadsheet.
Much of that was cruising around this weekend pleasure riding.
This morning was my commute, 32 miles in street mod with most of it at full highway speed, which when keeping up with traffic has little to do with the posted limit.  I was surprised how good the economy was for this trip only dipping down to 64%.


DateTimeODOTripSoCLocationCharge timeSoC after
6/19/201911:30697Cleveland Moto
6/19/201912:27423657Work573
6/19/201918:368139?Bill's1:20?
6/19/201921:151001940Home?100
6/20/20198:491434345Work?100
6/20/201920:321753258Home4100
6/21/20198:202154058Work389
6/21/201911:30218386Don Ramon
6/21/201912:30221381Work2.25100
6/21/201918:132664544Home0.847
6/21/201919:50273741Home0.544
6/21/201921:122992622Home7.25100
6/22/201922:433575852Home4.5100
6/23/201916:434064962Home3.75100
6/23/20198:124383264Work3.5100
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Re: SR/F observations and questions
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2019, 08:28:19 PM »

Has anyone played with the settings on the front or rear suspension of the SRF?
I weigh 185lbs and the bike feels a bit hard for me, like if it was set for maybe someone much heavier.
Before I change those settings, would there be any drawback? I don't plan on riding with a passenger ever.
Stability or handling issues if set too low/soft?
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