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Jarrett

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Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« on: May 15, 2019, 06:25:40 AM »

As many probably know, I've got a FX and I like it a lot  but would like to go more miles than it will do.  I've test ridden a SRF, a DS and today, a DSR+Charge Tank. Out of those three, I really like the DSR, but to the lack of L2 charging my area, the charge tank is a bit of a waste for me. So I'm thinking I'd like to get a DSR + Power Tank to maximize my range. 

Does any have this configuration out there?   14.4 battery in a DSR + a Power Tank.  What kind of range are you getting out of them at what speeds?
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 06:30:28 AM »

I have a 2018 S with Power Tank and was able to get about 150 miles from that combination, one time last summer.  However, my average speed was around 45 mph and I did a lot of slow climbing and coasting when going down hill.  I would say that Zero's range claims for their bikes are pretty accurate. It all depends upon how fast you go.   ;)
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 08:11:33 AM »

As many probably know, I've got a FX and I like it a lot  but would like to go more miles than it will do.  I've test ridden a SRF, a DS and today, a DSR+Charge Tank. Out of those three, I really like the DSR, but to the lack of L2 charging my area, the charge tank is a bit of a waste for me. So I'm thinking I'd like to get a DSR + Power Tank to maximize my range. 

Does any have this configuration out there?   14.4 battery in a DSR + a Power Tank.  What kind of range are you getting out of them at what speeds?
The simple rule is to multiply the battery KWH by ten and there is your range in miles at moderate speeds under normal conditions.

So 14.4 plus 3.6 KWH pwr tank= 180 miles is what you can expect. More if riding slow, less if riding fast.

It's kinda hard to get range accuracy on a bike that gets roughly about half the range for each rime the speed is doubled. But the ten times battery KWH=miles works fairly well for motorcycles. But about half that in an E-cage. My Tesla has 75KWH of battery for a 310 mile range. But the Telsa is a lot more consistent with its range at varying speeds, unlike our E-motorcycles that vary greatly.

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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2019, 03:36:45 AM »

Thanks for the info.  Still deciding if I really need to Zero's in the garage.
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2019, 08:56:07 AM »

I went ahead and ordered one today.
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2019, 09:03:38 AM »

Really hoping all these SR/F orders don't interfere with my delivery time :)
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2019, 07:20:19 PM »

Really hoping all these SR/F orders don't interfere with my delivery time :)

That could be a concern. I am not sure that Zero can manufacturer more than one model at a time on their very simple production line.   ???
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2019, 08:43:56 PM »

I went ahead and ordered one today.

Keep in mind the power tank will add about 45 pounds up high and will throw off the balance. I really wish Zero would have designed the power tank so you can install it only when you know you will need it and leave it at home the rest of the time.
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2019, 01:48:58 AM »

Why not wait to see the size of the SR/F's power tank?
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2019, 02:21:32 AM »

I haven't heard any balance issues with the power tank.

I rode the SR/F twice and didn't like it as much as the DSR.
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2019, 03:58:50 AM »

I haven't heard any balance issues with the power tank.

I rode the SR/F twice and didn't like it as much as the DSR.

My 2018 S has a power tank and I agree that it does upset the cornering.  It is a lot of weight up high and makes for quite a bit of inertia when dropping into a corner, which is kind of uncomfortable compared with my ICE motorcycles.  So I just take it easy when riding fast around sharp corners. One of the issues that you have to put up with to have an extended range on a Zero.
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2019, 05:58:40 AM »

I rode a DSR with a Charge Tank the other day and it didn't seem top heavy. 

Is that 19 additional pounds of the Power Tank really going to make that much difference?
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2019, 07:07:33 AM »

The difference between the PT and non-PT bikes on the website is 44 lbs, so safe to assume PT is 44 lbs.

If you do some searches here and ZMOG, you'll find the weight of the CT is 25 lbs.

44-25=19

That's why I ask.  I rode a DSR+CT and it was fine.  Is the additional 19 lbs of the PT really an issue?  That's about 3 gallons of gas in a gas tank, which is not sloshing around.

I personally can't tell a difference in my ICE bikes handling from empty to full gas tank and they hold 5 gallons or 30 lbs of gasoline.  if I can't tell a difference when my ICE bikes go up in weight by 30 lbs in 5 minutes, would I really be able to tell if a DSR+PT is 19 lbs. heavier than the DSR+CT I demo'ed and enjoyed?

I'm guessing not.
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2019, 07:54:12 PM »

All can say is that having 45 pounds of weight up high on a Zero chassis can be felt when changing directions - as well as when pushing the bike around by hand.  ;)
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Re: Anyone Have a DSR + Power Tank?
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2019, 08:59:25 PM »

When I test rode the DSR+CT, the salesperson pushed the bike to the parking lot.  I jumped on it and rode off. 

The whole time, I was riding the bike I was thinking how light and nimble it felt compared to my ICE bikes.  Not knowing it was a 445 lb bike the whole time.

When I got back, I left the bike in the parking lot and went in to talk to the salesperson.  As I was leaving, almost to my truck, I thought, I should feel how easy it is to push around.  So I went back and grabbed the DSR+CT and pushed it around the parking lot a bit.  I couldn't believe how heavy it felt.  Riding it made it feel like a very light bike, but pushing it by hand all the sudden made it feel much heavier than expected. 

If the DSR+PT rides the way the DSR+CT does, I'll be happy with it.
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