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[Moto7575]

Hi. Like most of us i have this problem : https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Common_Problems#Groan_Sound
Can anybody give reference of acceptable lubricants (if possible available in Europe) ?

Are these fine : (Facom special plastics lubricant) :https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00B7INIMQ/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
(WD 40 - plastics & caoutchouc polish) : https://www.amazon.fr/WD-40-33021-Sp%C3%A9cialiste-Lustreur-Silicone/dp/B00P0YLYCY/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1549265897&sr=1-1&keywords=wd-40+caoutchouc

[BamBam]

I wouldn't use that product since it is designed as a silicone polish.  I would use this stuff on your drive belt to help reduce the groan sound.

https://www.amazon.com/MWUR9-08897-Silicone-Lubricant-Type/dp/B000PJED72

[Moto7575]

Not sold in Europe :-( Any other reference ?

[Richard230]

I suppose you could go to an auto accessory store and look for rubber a "belt dressing" spray.     ICE cars seem to use lots of rubber belts to drive their engine accessories so there are bound to be products to keep their squeaking at bay.  However, I have no idea if these products are a good idea to use on Zero's drive belt. They may have other silicone lubricants that might work too.

[Moto7575]

This one looks good "pure silicon oil, no solvent or grease" : https://www.esska.fr/esska_fr_s/Silicone-Spray-400ml-E-COLL-907284349390-16560.html,shoptype_set=b2c

[Crilly]

Is candle wax harmful?

[BamBam]

This one looks good "pure silicon oil, no solvent or grease" : https://www.esska.fr/esska_fr_s/Silicone-Spray-400ml-E-COLL-907284349390-16560.html,shoptype_set=b2c

I think the "dry type" silicone spray is the best because it doesn't leave any residues that can attract dirt and gum up over time.  If you can't find that, then the spray you provided in the link  should be fine.  I would not use a belt dressing as this stuff can be very sticky and will surely attract dirt in addition to making a mess.

[Richard230]

I will make one comment about the groaning noise:  My 2018 S groaned loudly when new.  But after a while it quieted down and around 1000 miles the noise went completely away.  Either that or I got used to it.   

[BamBam]

That's my experience too. Time will make the groan much less noticeable, but I would still spray the belt with silicone every few weeks. It helps make the belt roll a lot easier too.

[Moto7575]

I only have this sound after the bike has been under the rain for dozens of minutes. it disappears after 1 hour or so.
I did not find the pure silicon spray. I find "belt sprays" (for marine applications), "pure silicon spray" (for home use like zippers fluidity).
Unfortunately this does not ship via air transportation. I'm still looking for a reference available in Europe (Uk/Germany/France...)

[BamBam]

I only have this sound after the bike has been under the rain for dozens of minutes. it disappears after 1 hour or so.

That is quite normal.

[Moto7575]

I know and except for the noise I did not experience anything bad, but the unofficial manuals tells that spraying pure silicone will avoid this for some time.

[BamBam]

FWIW, this is the spray silicone I had on hand at home that I use on my belt.

[Moto7575]

Thanks ! I found this on ebay: klosterman belt spray https://www.ebay.fr/itm/282212092406

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

For what it's worth, the manual doesn't specify the silicone spray more precisely, partly because we're not certain what really works in the long-term yet, and partly to avoid endorsing a specific product or linking to a page on (say) Amazon or EBay or such that expires too readily.