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[Francois]

mie reseller told me that for 2019 there will be a news model
a super motorbike
220 mm torques
80 kwatts
and new thenologie batterie with graphene

do someone heard about it?

[dennis-NL]

Not yet, but they sure need a Zero in any existing ICE bike class.
I they don't, the bigger players will take over the whole EV market while Zero has done the hard work to make it viable for everyday riding.
Hope Zero do some more commercial stuff to be the Tesla of bikes for the greater community.

Most bikers I speek don't even know electric is even a valid choice these days.
This while EV cars, scooters and bicycles are known to be.... (in the Netherlands).

[Erasmo]

mie reseller told me that for 2019 there will be a news model
a super motorbike
220 mm torques
80 kwatts
and new thenologie batterie with graphene

do someone heard about it?

I highly doubt that there will be a graphene battery in the new Zero, the first place where you can expect those is in the drone racing world. For the rest, I wouldn't be surprised if Zero is cooking something new, normally they already released the new bikes this time of year.

[heroto]

Fantasy:
Tesla buys Zero. Synergy galore!

[JaimeC]

mie reseller told me that for 2019 there will be a news model
a super motorbike
220 mm torques
80 kwatts
and new thenologie batterie with graphene

do someone heard about it?

I highly doubt that there will be a graphene battery in the new Zero, the first place where you can expect those is in the drone racing world. For the rest, I wouldn't be surprised if Zero is cooking something new, normally they already released the new bikes this time of year.

No, this is WAY too early.  Zero announces their new models at the European EICMA show.  I think that's early November if I recall correctly.  I wish they'd announce them at the AIMExpo in October; they ARE an American manufacturer so why not announce it at an American trade show??

[dennis-NL]

mie reseller told me that for 2019 there will be a news model
a super motorbike
220 mm torques
80 kwatts
and new thenologie batterie with graphene

do someone heard about it?

I highly doubt that there will be a graphene battery in the new Zero, the first place where you can expect those is in the drone racing world. For the rest, I wouldn't be surprised if Zero is cooking something new, normally they already released the new bikes this time of year.

No, this is WAY too early.  Zero announces their new models at the European EICMA show.  I think that's early November if I recall correctly.  I wish they'd announce them at the AIMExpo in October; they ARE an American manufacturer so why not announce it at an American trade show??

Europe FIRST (sorry, couldn't help myself    )

But here is an interesting article about America and Europe differences in EV market (and I think why Europeans are more into EV's in general for now)
https://chargedevs.com/features/the-charging-market-in-europe-and-the-us-evbox-explains-the-difference/

In Europe there is really a move for EV now, more and more city's a banning or planning to ban cars an stuff to get cleaner air.
In the Netherlands and more countries even making laws to forbit selling of 'normal' cars in near future (>2020).
So people are now more and more thinking:  oops, if I buy a 'normal' car now I can't get anything in return for it in future when buying a new car.
Also company's wich can replace a currents car motor with EV are making rebuild kits.

Really interesting too see where it's going from now, can the 'normal' car lobby survive against this movement that's really having momentum?

[kashography]

I dont believe in a new battery.

But there is something new to come 2019, as I heard. Not saying more 

[Erasmo]

mie reseller told me that for 2019 there will be a news model
a super motorbike
220 mm torques
80 kwatts
and new thenologie batterie with graphene

do someone heard about it?

I highly doubt that there will be a graphene battery in the new Zero, the first place where you can expect those is in the drone racing world. For the rest, I wouldn't be surprised if Zero is cooking something new, normally they already released the new bikes this time of year.

No, this is WAY too early.  Zero announces their new models at the European EICMA show.  I think that's early November if I recall correctly.  I wish they'd announce them at the AIMExpo in October; they ARE an American manufacturer so why not announce it at an American trade show??

I could misremember but I could have sworn that the previous models where presented as early a July.

Could be lots of reasons, they might not be ready to release by that date, EICMA is a bigger show and they want to counter the Energica-BMW-KTM electric stands, Europe could be a better market coming years with the current US government hating electric vehicles.

Or they realised that we live in a global world these days and that the location of your head office and assembly space is irrelevant to where you release your product.

[NEW2elec]

I would do like Tesla and announce it all by myself and not share the limelight with anyone.
But in years past it was in Nov with I think 2015 being in Oct.

[JaimeC]

Motorcycling in general (electric or ICE) is bigger in Europe than in the States.  In Europe they are valid forms of everyday transportation.  In the US, unfortunately, they are viewed as simply "toys."  Sad, but true.

[Richard230]

Motorcycling in general (electric or ICE) is bigger in Europe than in the States.  In Europe they are valid forms of everyday transportation.  In the US, unfortunately, they are viewed as simply "toys."  Sad, but true.

Plus, most vehicle customers in the U.S. seem to want huge, gas-hogging, pickup trucks and SUV's. Gas and diesel here remain so cheap and plentiful that the market really doesn't see the need for electric power.  Even in locations that say they support the environment, such as along both coasts, electric vehicles are seen as toys for rich people who are trying to get away with not paying road taxes and don't deserve any breaks. 

My Royal Enfield continues to generate a lot more interest and appreciative comments by the general public than does my Zero.

[heroto]

"I know something you don't know!" is OK in a kindergarten schoolyard but on a forum of adults, not so much.

[Richard230]

"I know something you don't know!" is OK in a kindergarten schoolyard but on a forum of adults, not so much.

I think I know something that you don't know, but I have forgotten it already due to my short term memory loss problem. 

[centra12]

With 2000 models a year, no major technological leaps are possible because the money is simply missing


https://www.businessinsider.de/tesla-of-electric-motorcycles-zero-motorcycles-shares-company-plans-2018-3?r=US&IR=T

[Richard230]

With 2000 models a year, no major technological leaps are possible because the money is simply missing


https://www.businessinsider.de/tesla-of-electric-motorcycles-zero-motorcycles-shares-company-plans-2018-3?r=US&IR=T

I have to agree. But trying to emulate Tesla is a tough row to hoe for Zero. Especially as Tesla keeps loosing money every year.  The customer base is just not there. Motorcycle enthusiasts are really conservative and it will take many years to swing the market away from noisy IC motorcycles to electric power.  During those years, Zero will somehow have to stay in business. And then when the market finally picks up to where it becomes profitable, the big established companies will jump in and steal most of the market away from a small operator like Zero.

Right now all of the big motorcycle companies are focused on offering small IC motorcycles in the $2,500-$6,000 price range, which seems to be what most young people can afford and which are generating big sales numbers lately - if not big profits. The big hurdle for EV manufacturers in attracting new customers is price. Older people who have lots more disposable income than young people are pretty much set in their ways and continue to look for big, fancy, expensive IC cruisers; or big, fancy, expensive IC SUV-types.  And all want lots of noise. On all of the IC motorcycle forums that I visit, every one has a popular thread about changing the stock quiet muffler to one that makes more noise.  And none of the comments seem to be concerned about hearing damage or the impact of the noise on the general public.

Figuring out what direction to go to expand an electric motorcycle market is a tough decision for any new company that doesn't have other products to keep them financially afloat.  Even Polaris wasn't able to make the purchase of the well-developed Brammo product pencil-out. That really surprised me.