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All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« on: February 01, 2018, 10:41:33 PM »

2018 Alta Motors Redshift MX-R
Lighter, Faster, and Less Expensive

The Future of Fast just got better! The latest offering from San Francisco based Alta Motors boasts an impressive ten horsepower increase and a boost of 27 ft-lbs of torque over the previous Redshift MX. Clearly, the new MX-R took advantage of those New Years Resolution Sales at Planet Fitness, shedding an impressive six pounds. These increase in power and reduction in weight fixes a target directly on the KTM and Husqvarna 350cc Motocross offerings. All of the improvements Alta Motors implemented for 2018 are sure to make the MX-R an impressive Motocross machine. But the question on the minds of many is will anyone be able to afford to race the Electric powerhouse?

Luckily for us, Alta Motors has been collecting feedback from motorcycle consumers, dealers, and press and developing a plan to address all of the concerns that consumers have with the new Platform. Fist on the list of concerns for many consumers is the price. No one can argue that a fifteen thousand dollar price tag was an insurmountable barrier to entry for the vast majority of riders! Especially when the competition is offering competitive, race worthy, bikes for under ten thousand dollars. Alta offered up the proverbial mic drop when they announced that the much improved 2018 Redshift MXR would retail for $11,999, a three thousand dollar price reduction over the original 2017 Redshift MX!

Another common concern for riders considering the jump from internal combustion motors to the all-electric Redshift is the ability keep enough charge on the bike to complete the days worth of practices, qualifying races, and motos. Alta took a two-part approach to this hurdle. First, the new battery chemistry and beefed up electronics allow the Redshift to handle the taxing power draw and extreme charging requirements that motocross demands of the electric bike without generating as much heat. Riders familiar with the original Redshift MX know all about heat limiting and increased charge times after sustained wide-open efforts on loamy motocross tracks. The Redshift MXR virtually eliminates heat-related issues that plagued the previous Redshift MX. Part two of Alta's plan was developing a rapid charger that reduces the overall charge time by 30 minutes! Alta's rapid charger will retail for $799 and allow the bike to go from depleted to full charge in a staggering 1.5 hours.

Alta Motors is committed to producing bikes that are competitive out of the crate, this means including top-shelf components. Unfortunately for the 2017 MX, the 4CS has developed a not so favorable reputation in the motorcycle community. Alta addressed this with a fully updated suspension package that includes the latest AER 48 forks from WP. The new suspension package will offer competitive riders a much-improved package that is laser-focused on motocross competition.

The 2018 Alta Motors Redshift MX-R is stacking up to be a solid offering at a price that puts it within reach of racers across the country. The latest offering is proof positive that Alta Motors is listening to customers and dedicated to providing the best motorcycle on the market. The 2018, Made in the USA, Alta Redshift MX-R is sure to turn some heads and change hearts at motocross tracks across the country this year!

Specifications:
Horsepower - 50 HP
Torque at crank - 42 lb-ft
Weight (wet) - 259 lbs
Seat Height - 37.5"
Top Speed - 65 MPH
Front Tire - Dunlop Geomax MX3SF 80/100-21
Rear Tire - Dunlop Geomax MX3SF 100/90-19
Front Wheel - Warp9 Elite 21”
Rear Wheel - Warp9 Elite 19”
Fork   WP - AER
Shock - WP 2018 Alta Custom Spec
Front Brake - Brembo 260mm
Rear Brake - Brembo 240mm
Wheelbase - 1487.47mm (58.562")
Rake - 27 deg
Trail - 119.38mm (4.7")
Offset - 55mm


Runtime:
Expert Motocross:
The MXR matches it’s ICE competitors on a moto track. An expert in Maps 3 and 4 will be able to complete a 25+ minute moto. Map 4 provides an exciting “overclocked” experience, but run times will be reduced by about 50%

Intermediate Motocross:
An intermediate level motocross racer, utilizing maps 2 and 3, can expect about 60 minutes of continuous use depending on track size, speed, and ambient conditions.

Expert Singletrack and Woods:
For riders considering more aggressive riding in the mountains on challenging singletrack or goat trails where average speeds are low, the Redshift MXR should provide 4+ hours of range using Maps 1 and 2.


Performance Throttle Maps:
ECO (Map 1): A traction map that offers the best range profile. Also an excellent map for just starting out.

SPORT (Map 2): Performance profile engineered to line up with 250f race machinery.

PERFORMANCE (Map 3): Similar traits as the Sport map but with more bottom end and traction, it also makes a great starting gate map

OVERCLOCKED (Map 4): Maximum torque and power are available without restriction if you have the skill to control it. Thermal limiting will protect the machine if you push too hard.


Model Comparison
Redshift MX-R   
Horsepower - 50 hp
Torque @ Crank - 42 lb-ft
Wet Weight - 259 lbs
Seat Height - 37.5"

Redshift MX   
Horsepower - 40 hp
Torque @ Crank - 37.4 lb-ft
Wet Weight - 265 lbs
Seat Height - 37"

Husqvarna FX 350   
Horsepower - 58 hp
Torque @ Crank - 29 lb-ft
Wet Weight - 236 lbs
Seat Height - 37.8"

KTM 450 SX-F
Horsepower - 62 hp
Torque @ Crank - 36 lb-ft
Wet Weight - 232 lbs
Seat Height - 37.8"


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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 02:48:24 AM »

Thanks a bunch !!  I've been looking forward to this info ever since I heard about the MX-R, looks like they've really improved it quite a bit.  Now to figure out how to get 240VAC into the garage... :)  I like the new graphics too.



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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 03:58:12 AM »

Looks great! Can anyone confirm whether or not the R spec will make its way to the SM and EX models?
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 02:04:55 AM »

Looks great! Can anyone confirm whether or not the R spec will make its way to the SM and EX models?

Nothing has been released regarding the R spec on the EX or SM. Having said that, we are currently working with Motominded in Colorado Springs to produce a "street legal" kit for the MXR. We hope to have this plug and play kit done in time for the MXR to ship. Because the Alta meets emissions requirements in every state, obtaining a street title for the MXR should be a pretty straightforward process requiring a State Patrol inspection for your states DOT requirements and some additional paperwork at the Department of Motor vehicles/ revenue. The WP AER fork and new suspension valving should put the MXR in the same class as the FX350 or 350XCF for aggressive offroad riders.
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 02:12:12 AM »

Thanks a bunch !!  I've been looking forward to this info ever since I heard about the MX-R, looks like they've really improved it quite a bit.  Now to figure out how to get 240VAC into the garage... :)  I like the new graphics too.


Ray

You can use a plug adaptor to plug the new fast charger into your standard 110v outlet in the garage (won't charge as fast but great for nightly charges). The new charger comes equipped with the 240v twist lock plug used on most generators for fast charging in the field.
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 03:55:35 AM »

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You can use a plug adaptor to plug the new fast charger into your standard 110v outlet in the garage

Well... I couldn't find it in the Alta manual, but it seems to me that a 2.7kW 110VAC charger would require a 25A or 30A service (which I don't have in my garage), so if I'm going to pull wire anyway I'd much rather have 240VAC / 20A or 30A.  It might be a good idea for Alta to add the charger AC-current requirements to the manual, as the common 110VAC /  15A service will be a lights-out situation at 2.7kW.

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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 04:19:50 AM »

Might I guess that 55mm offset is cripple clamp offset plus axle offset?  Usually offset is 14 to 22mm, usually clamp number.
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 10:41:59 AM »

Maybe call your street bikes something other than "R" it tends to scare the insurance guys into crazy high payments.
Unless your going over 150MPH maybe just call it SM2 or EX2 so it's just our little secret.
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2018, 09:57:33 AM »

Maybe call your street bikes something other than "R" it tends to scare the insurance guys into crazy high payments.
Unless your going over 150MPH maybe just call it SM2 or EX2 so it's just our little secret.

I can agree to that... My honda that ended in RR cost more to insure than any other bike... lol
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 01:13:15 AM »

Did Alta kind of shoot themselves in the foot ????  Why would I buy a non-R model ????  I'm looking to purchase an SM, but why would I buy now ????  When I can purchase an SM-R later with more hp, torque, updated battery, better legs, improved charging and lighter weight for $1K more ????
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 06:05:21 AM »

Did Alta kind of shoot themselves in the foot ????  Why would I buy a non-R model ????  I'm looking to purchase an SM, but why would I buy now ????  When I can purchase an SM-R later with more hp, torque, updated battery, better legs, improved charging and lighter weight for $1K more ????

I agree, lots of activity right now with the brand, that can be both good and bad, as an owner of the SM, I sure would have liked to have known what was in store with the brand, not sure but I probably would have waited.  I'm still waiting for firmware updates so I can charge my bike at 240 which will yield a 4 hr recharge time, that will be a welcome addition.  For folks like me, it sort of stings because I will basically have an outdated bike compared to the newer models within 6 months of ownership, and yeah, I paid the higher price for it too, which really stings...  If Alta helps me out a little, I'll either pick up the EX or MXR, probably the MXR, if not, I'll probably hold out for a year or so to see what comes down the pipeline, for now, I'll enjoy my SM, it is still a very, very cool motorcycle...
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 08:15:08 AM »

ultratoad,  This is no different than Zero offering the S and the SR. Folks still buy the S when for just a bit more they can get a lot more performance. And yes I am surprised Zero still offers the S, thought they would have killed it by now.
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 08:56:22 PM »

ultratoad,  This is no different than Zero offering the S and the SR. Folks still buy the S when for just a bit more they can get a lot more performance. And yes I am surprised Zero still offers the S, thought they would have killed it by now.

Or Energica dropping the price of the 2017 models by almost in half, compared to what they were when they were first introduced into the U.S. market.  If you were an "early adopter" of the brand that has got to hurt.

Regarding the Zero S model, I prefer the S over the SR as it still has more power than I need, costs less to purchase and insure and the SR can be more difficult to control in slippery conditions. (The SR is a good candidate for traction control, such as is standard equipment on the BMW C-Evolution.)
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Re: All New Alta Redshift MXR released today!
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 01:34:32 AM »

Depends on what you want to use the bike for. I am interested in trails, and no racing at all.  Going from 40 to 50 hp is a negative to me.  Would I rather ride a 450 or a 250 in the trails, definitely a 250.  I am one of those who believes the smaller motor will provide more range. Also less rotating mass to make the bike more agile. Huge difference between a 450 and a 250 even when the weight of the bikes is about the same.  I not sure the difference would be so noticeable with electric though.  Would be interesting to see a review with both bikes in tight woods.  In that straight line motocross event, probably an extra 10 hp would help, but I would never use the bike in that way.  I am more interested in a dedicated trail bike that is a dual sport.  They do list a number for range on trail usage, so at least they haven't completely ignored those people.  But it looks focused on track use, that's a bummer.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 05:19:30 AM »

I am more interested in a dedicated trail bike that is a dual sport.  They do list a number for range on trail usage, so at least they haven't completely ignored those people.  But it looks focused on track use, that's a bummer.

You should check out the Redshift EX if you haven't already:

https://www.altamotors.co/redshiftex#redshift-ex

This model is exactly what you are looking for:
- dedicated enduro mapping
- Suspension tuned for single track
- Plenty of range for longer trail rides
- Factory 50 state street legal
- light and nimble

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