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Author Topic: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch  (Read 527 times)

ESokoloff

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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2017, 03:05:29 AM »

I have bought the switch for my seadoo and it had three poles- common, normally open and normally closed, ...........

Actually that sounds like a Single Pole Double Throw (SPDT) switch.
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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2017, 04:02:59 AM »

Interesting. We can imagine an option in the zero application shutting down the bike if the Bluetooth connection is lost
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KrazyEd

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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2017, 09:34:15 PM »

The phone thing is a good Idea as a backup. Maybe a keypad in addition
to the key. I work Valet in Vegas. We had a guest drive his Tesla in having
left the house with only his phone. Once in the parking garage, there was
no signal so car was stuck in the middle of the driveway.
There have been articles in the paper about people using their
phones to start and drive their Tesla and ending up where they have
no cell service. They then have to find a way to get back to where the
key is, or if they have someone with them, to someplace that they
have signal and "start" the car so that the person with it can drive
it to them. The Model 3 ( STILL haven't gotten my configuration page )
comes with a "valet" key.
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42Cliffside

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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2018, 01:49:43 PM »

When I lowsided some guy came up and grabbed the throttle to lift it and highsided it onto the other side. Grrr.
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42Cliffside

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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2018, 11:31:10 AM »

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where they have
no cell service.

OT - I know that a machine shop is working on a satellite antenna that is embedded in the roof of the car for a self driving car from a major manufacturer.

I've been thinking about other things that they could use that for, I bet the car could be a hotspot on whatever networks (Bluetooth, WiFi) they want for passenger verification with a phone even away from cell networks, assuming a smartphone of some sort with a encrypted key that was downloaded when they hired the car.
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42Cliffside

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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 11:46:25 AM »

I would be very interested to know what they plan to do in the reported scenario, underground/multilevel parking garages. where there is no possibility of any signal even thru mesh networks of other cars. I would assume some sort of encrypted key would not require any network attachment, as long as the car has the key, which should be no problem for the owner, only renters.

That fact also makes me wonder what tesla is doing if the car could be stranded ... this is the first time I've heard of such a thing...
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Re: Bike jacking - Safety kill switch
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 06:09:12 PM »

Hello,
Does anyone know where to connect a safety kill switch on Zero bikes ?

Wouldn't a twist on the keyless ignition concept (twist is that there isn't even a button, just the proximity detection which triggers a relay) in combination with the regular key be the solution for bike jacking?

While this still won't make any difference if you lowside, want to pick up the bike and forgot to hit the kill switch (happened to me) ... but it's perfect for a bike jacking.
The thief is able to take off with the bike but it will stall 20m down the road. You're out of range of most of the aggression of the thief towards you and when he finally tucked tail you can pick up the bike where he left it for dead.


some other posts from this forum containing the same concept:
Proximity Fob for Ignition and Storage Compartment Entry
Attempted theft - lock cylinder now busted
Zero Ignition Key
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