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Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« on: December 21, 2017, 10:34:45 PM »

Whos going to start this one off?

Energica have a neat youtube video beating everything in its path here.....

but

Lightning beats all comers at Pikes Peak.

Who would you put your money on and why?
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2017, 01:01:59 AM »

My comment would be that you can actually buy an Energica (they sell them at my BMW dealer), but where would you go to purchase a Lightning and who do you know that actually owns one?  ::)
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2017, 01:25:07 AM »

OP is Trolling for traffic, this is clickbait.


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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2017, 04:45:33 AM »

I'll take a hit on this. My money would be on Energica. If you are serious about selling sport bikes you are going to have to focus on performance. So far Energica seems to be far more serious about selling bikes than Lightening is. As Richard asked, does anyone know anyone who owns a LS-218? In the LS-218 vs Kawasaki H2 the article mentioned Lightening has all of 15 employees. And they have been in business for how many years?  I have tried several times to get answers to questions and never got a response. Lightening has no dealer network at all. You have to wonder how they are still in business. Their web site sucks. Not much activity on their Facebook page either. No question the LS-218 has some great features, it is just too bad Lightening doesn't seem interested in selling them.
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 03:39:35 AM »

Maybe but maybe they are just focussing on the US right now. How many vendors do we know that don't look at the UK as a viable market yet? Eg compare the amount of EV vendors at EICMA (~25) vs the NEC a week later (2 or 3)

P.S not a clipbait post btw
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 10:53:46 AM »

Maybe but maybe they are just focussing on the US right now. How many vendors do we know that don't look at the UK as a viable market yet? Eg compare the amount of EV vendors at EICMA (~25) vs the NEC a week later (2 or 3)

P.S not a clipbait post btw

I nibbled. Actually, I'm grateful for the post because I hadn't seen the drag race video yet and was unaware of this business in the UK.

I have a couple of questions:

Why .com instead of .co.uk?
On your website, the first scooter I clicked through to cost £8k, claimed to have the performance of a 125cc but only puts out 8kW and the range is terrible.  Not a good first impression I'm afraid.
Your website looks very amateurish. It won't help you sell scooters because people won't take you seriously. It looks like it was created using a freebie tool for people with no experience over the course of an afternoon.

Back to the topic though. Yes, I'm disappointed that Lightning have such a poor sales and marketing effort despite having created something really rather special.  I'll have to look into the Energica, but I fear it will be well out of my price range.  Paying £6,500 for a 2014 Zero DSP was right at the limit for me a couple of years ago.  I'm just a few months away from paying for it!

Also, the drag race should have included a Zero SR for comparison, not the straight S.
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 12:11:52 PM »

I was interested to hear a true comparison of the bikes rather than how good or bad they are at marketing. The rest is off topic
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2018, 12:42:48 PM »

I was interested to hear a true comparison of the bikes rather than how good or bad they are at marketing. The rest is off topic

And yet you sign up to a public forum using your commercial website address. You are certainly interested in marketing.  What did you expect?

Anyhow, I don't want to upset you because you are trying to sell EVs here in the UK, which is a good thing.  I wish you the best of luck and hope you find some of my feedback useful.
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Re: Energica vs Lightning..... Discuss
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2018, 12:47:29 PM »

Maybe but maybe they are just focussing on the US right now. How many vendors do we know that don't look at the UK as a viable market yet? Eg compare the amount of EV vendors at EICMA (~25) vs the NEC a week later (2 or 3)

P.S not a clipbait post btw

I'd put my money on Energica too. I'd prefer to buy a Lightning though, if I had the coin!
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