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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 03:54:40 AM »

I used to use eco mode in wet weather when I was running on the stock Kendra tyres my DS came with. They were rubbish and were actually quite dangerous when the were nearly worn out.

With good tyres and more miles under my belt I still occasionally use Eco mode when I need maximum range. The reduced torque and throttle response encourages steady riding. It's boring though and gets switched back to custom as soon as possible. I never use sport mode because I like full throttle-off regen.  It helps with cornering, by the way, in much the same way as entering a corner in a lower gear does on an ICE bike.
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2017, 03:58:52 PM »

My vote is on using self-restraint. The muted acceleration with Eco mode means you may not be able to accelerate away from a dangerous situation leaving you with one less option in dealing with the situation. The potential for extra range is not worth the risk.
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2017, 09:15:07 PM »

My "eco" mode is my right wrist.   ;)
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2017, 11:58:13 PM »

Basically, when I ride around town, I use my "Custom" mode which is 100% for both torque and regen.  I get acceleration when I need it, and I don't have to use the brakes very often.  HOWEVER, when I hit the highway for my daily commute, I switch to "Eco" mode and use that like a "Poor Man's Cruise Control."  The speed limit here in New York may be 55, but unless you're doing 70 or better you're more than likely to get run off the road.

So, I put it into Eco mode (which still gives me more than enough acceleration to pull into traffic from the entrance lane) and just hold the "throttle" WFO till I reach my exit, at which point I thumb it back into "Custom" mode to decelerate on the exit ramp and back on to surface streets.
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2017, 02:55:38 AM »

So, I put it into Eco mode (which still gives me more than enough acceleration to pull into traffic from the entrance lane) and just hold the "throttle" WFO till I reach my exit, at which point I thumb it back into "Custom" mode to decelerate on the exit ramp and back on to surface streets.
I guess that maybe WOT with a speed limiter is less efficient for long rides than moderating the throttle.
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2017, 05:55:22 AM »

In any case, you can change from one mode to another very quickly while riding.

I don't believe you can change modes when your speed is above 50mph.

on 2014 SR, you have to drop to 60mph and be throttle neutral before a mode change will take.
2016 SR, same experience.
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2017, 11:55:10 PM »

So, I put it into Eco mode (which still gives me more than enough acceleration to pull into traffic from the entrance lane) and just hold the "throttle" WFO till I reach my exit, at which point I thumb it back into "Custom" mode to decelerate on the exit ramp and back on to surface streets.
I guess that maybe WOT with a speed limiter is less efficient for long rides than moderating the throttle.

Well, using a speed limiting mode will necessarily mean more and less thrust as you go up or down hill.  A throttle lock will hold the thrust steadier, but you might still have to adjust it if the hills are too steep.
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Re: Eco-Mode vs. Self-Restraint
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2017, 06:50:26 PM »

I only use custom mode with everything set to the max. Then I use self-restraint in the wet or if on a long ride.
ECO mode has no magic to it, if you don't put much power in, you can go further. I have done 200km on my 2015 SR in custom mode and self-restraint on the highway. Around town I can get 260km, you just have to go slow.
I like to know that I can have full power if something unexpected happens, and it always does sooner or later.
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