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Richard230

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2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« on: November 12, 2017, 05:53:55 AM »

I picked up the 2018 Zero S, with Power Tank, that  I ordered last month from Zero's San Francisco dealer, SF Moto.  It didn't take long to arrive, as it showed up on their doorstep a week ago, but I had ordered a touring windshield and a top box luggage rack and it took a while for those accessories to catch up with the bike and get installed by the shop.  Attached is a photo of my Zero and their bike storage area (waiting for service and/or parts) taken just after I had received the "orientation" spiel and right before I took off for home, via a jammed freeway that required some easy lane-splitting. 

The price for the bike was $17,883, plus another $2,000 for sales tax and various local and state "fees" - including a $23 fee for filing the bike's registration with the DMV electronically.  ???

The only hassle was that it took about 30 minutes and a number of tries to pair my cell phone to the bike as there seemed to be an issue with Bluetooth.  But eventually, they had success, the app is now working properly and I was able to adjust the "custom" settings to my favorite positions.  Fully charged the app says that there is 15.312 kWh (2 kWh more than my 2014 S showed when fully charged) available in the pack.  Voltage shows 116 volts.  Maximum charger draw from my 124 volt wall outlet was 12.24 amps, right before the system shut down.

Comparing the bike with my 2014 S, with PT (which I gave to my daughter), it feels heavier when pushed around and when lifting it off of the side stand.  The ride is firmer, but more controlled then the Fast Ace suspension on the 2014. However, I have yet to adjust the factory settings to accommodate my slightly lighter weight than the 180 pounds that it is adjusted for at the factory.  Plus, my experience has been that all suspensions are stiff when new and tend to get softer as they break-in after some time.  In general, I get a feeling that the new bike is more robust than my old one.  However, it does make a "growling" (that I hadn't heard since riding my 2012 Zero S) noise when first started from a dead stop and seems a little more noisy when running then my 2014 model.

I am not too thrilled about the silver color.  It just doesn't stand out like my 2012's red and my 2014's yellow colors.  Plus, the color looks kind of flat and is not very shiny.  But I can live with that as I don't look at the color when riding and tend to wear reflective gear, anyway.

I ordered the top box luggage rack and you should be aware that it does not come with the Givi top box base plate, so I'll have to order one of those from Revzilla  so that I can mount one of my two Givi top boxes to the rack.  I assume that you get the plate when you order the top box.  ???

The seat hasn't gotten any softer, so the Air Hawk pad will be going back on.

I do like the new windshield design.  It has an adjustable deflector attached to the section of the windshield just below its top.  However, it can not be raised above the top of the shield, just the angle and distance from the main windshield can be adjusted slightly. Check out the photo for its looks.  Attachment hardware is the same as the Zero shield that was on my 2014.

While in the shop I bought a set of EBC front brake pads for the 2014 bike.  The pads were in stock and only cost $32, which I thought was pretty reasonable, considering that the Zero pads were listed for $76 and needed to be ordered. However, the passenger foot peg that I needed was a real bargain at only $4.  ;D  Maybe I should have bought a case of them  ;)

So that is what I have to say for now.  While the new model is nice, it really is not a big upgrade from the 2014 S, when it comes to riding the bike.  The suspension is better, the brakes now have ABS and a few other minor changes have been made, but the riding experience and features are pretty much the same - or so it seems to me.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 08:13:05 AM »

I forgot to mention that the shop offered me an extended warranty by a private insurance company (not Zero) that would extend the chassis warranty (not sure if it would cover the batteries) for another  5 years.  I thought the price of $676 was fair, but I declined.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 05:19:42 AM by Richard230 »
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 10:43:38 AM »

Have you noticed the range to be increased over your 2014?

The 2014 had a 11.4 monolith + 2.8 power tank for 14.2 kWh
The 2018 has a 14.4 monolith + 3.6 power tank for 18.0 kWh

(edit: the 14.4 only comes in the SR I forgot
2018 S has a 13.0 monolith + 3.6 power tank for 16.6 kWh)

So 3.8 kWh over 14.2 means you should have over 25% more range than before!
Wow the 2018 (SR) monolith alone, meaning you can carry a charge tank, has more energy than the 2014 did with the biggest battery and the power tank included!  You can get more range now, and be able to charge it fast too!  Over 25% improvement in the batteries in 4 years is very nice!

(edit: the 2018 S has 2.4 kWh over the 2014.  So 2.4 over 14.2 is 17.2 % greater range.  Still very good!

Also don't forget to update your profile now, your newest bike isn't a 2016 BMW 1200RS anymore! :)
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 05:57:32 PM by Electric Terry »
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 05:46:16 AM »

Here are photos of my new bike.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 11:22:55 AM »

Congrat Richard!

I also occasionally have difficulty  with the bluetooth on my 2017 SR. I noticed that " it appear" that when i take my phone to 1 or 2 foot from the tank the phone  not detect and connect easyer.. but this might be coincicense only..

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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 09:22:48 PM »

There appeared only be Bluetooth trouble when first pairing the new bike with my (seldom used) cell phone.  Once the initial paring was completed, it now works fine.

A few other random comments from an inspection of my new bike last night (something that I do with every new motorcycle I buy before putting it into daily use):  Tires were properly inflated at the factory to the specified air pressure.  The front tire is only 6 months old, but the rear tire was manufactured 2 years ago.

There is a handy small space for carrying stuff, like a tubeless tire plugger and some CO2 cartridges, under the rear of the seat.  However, the seat is so difficult to reattach due to the mass of large orange wires at the front of the seat (which may be the result of the installation of the Power Tank) that I decided to forget using this space and hope I never have to remove the rear seat again.  ;)  Photo of orange snakes attached.

I checked the drive belt tension as set by the factory.  It measured (edit) 40 kg.  Zero's recommended tension range is 25 kg to 76.5 kg
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 05:20:34 AM by Richard230 »
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 09:24:02 PM »

Here is a photo of the under seat potential small storage area.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 10:40:25 PM »

Congrats on your new motorcycle, there is a mod to make the seat quick release.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 03:45:53 AM »


I checked the drive belt tension as set by the factory.  It measured 70 kg.  Zero's recommended tension range is 25 kg to 76.5 kg

Hi Richard, congrats on your new Zero and your lucky daughter too!

I just checked my 2014 manual and section 5.15 shows belt tension should be between 20kg and 30kg.

Is the range you mentioned for the wider belt on the 2018?


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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 04:52:51 AM »


I checked the drive belt tension as set by the factory.  It measured 70 kg.  Zero's recommended tension range is 25 kg to 76.5 kg

Hi Richard, congrats on your new Zero and your lucky daughter too!

I just checked my 2014 manual and section 5.15 shows belt tension should be between 20kg and 30kg.

Is the range you mentioned for the wider belt on the 2018?


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Yes. That is the belt tension specification in the 2018 Zero owner's manual.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 05:06:28 AM »

Congrats on your new motorcycle, there is a mod to make the seat quick release.

The problem is not the attachment screws (which come out easily enough) but with the installation of the seat under the "tank" area. It is very difficult to move forward enough to align the attachment screws with the fixed nuts on the seat base, because of the nest of wires in this area that conflict with the front and sides of the seat. The new seat attachment screws require a T45 Torx bit to loosen, BTW.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 05:09:01 AM »

> I picked up the 2018 Zero S, with Power Tank, that  I ordered last month from Zero's San Francisco dealer, SF Moto.  ...

Congrats!

> The price for the bike was $17,883, plus another $2,000 for sales tax and various local and state "fees" - including a $23 fee for filing the bike's registration with the DMV electronically.  ??? ...

Thanks for those details!  Are you getting any government incentives?

> I am not too thrilled about the silver color.  It just doesn't stand out like my 2012's red and my 2014's yellow colors.  Plus, the color looks kind of flat and is not very shiny.  But I can live with that as I don't look at the color when riding and tend to wear reflective gear, anyway.  ...

I have some 4" red vinyl striping you can have if you want to spice it up : - )  PM me be coordinate if you want to, I'm near you.  How do you feel about Rabbit and Polenta?

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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 05:47:19 AM »

> I picked up the 2018 Zero S, with Power Tank, that  I ordered last month from Zero's San Francisco dealer, SF Moto.  ...

Congrats!

> The price for the bike was $17,883, plus another $2,000 for sales tax and various local and state "fees" - including a $23 fee for filing the bike's registration with the DMV electronically.  ??? ...

Thanks for those details!  Are you getting any government incentives?

> I am not too thrilled about the silver color.  It just doesn't stand out like my 2012's red and my 2014's yellow colors.  Plus, the color looks kind of flat and is not very shiny.  But I can live with that as I don't look at the color when riding and tend to wear reflective gear, anyway.  ...

I have some 4" red vinyl striping you can have if you want to spice it up : - )  PM me be coordinate if you want to, I'm near you.  How do you feel about Rabbit and Polenta?

I plan to apply for the California rebate, but right now the 2018 Zeros are not on their application website, which only goes up to the 2017 models.  I assume that the federal IRS credit has been deleted by Congress.   ???  I'll pass on the stick-on striping. I have something like that in my garage, but I don't like stick-on striping as it eventually comes off - except when you want to remove it, then it sticks like crazy.   ::)  But thanks for the offer.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 03:50:09 PM »

Zero's recommended tension range is 25 kg to 76.5 kg
Are you sure? I think it is 20-30kg. 70kg is far too much.
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Re: 2018 Zero S with Power Tank
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 09:24:35 PM »

Zero's recommended tension range is 25 kg to 76.5 kg
Are you sure? I think it is 20-30kg. 70kg is far too much.

Here is what the 2018 Zero manual says:

1. Remove the key from the ignition switch.
2. Press the Tension Tester steadily to the non-cogged
side of the belt, half of the distance between the
motor-driven sprocket and rear wheel drive sprocket.
The “lip” of the tester will lead the tester on to the belt.
3. Slowly increase the pressure on the tester, until you
hear a clicking sound. Do not increase the pressure
after the tester has clicked.
4. Remove the tester carefully from the belt. Avoid rough
movements of the tester, as this would change the
results of the measurement.
5. Adjust drive belt tension if the measurement is outside
the recommended range.
Belt Pitch Recommended Tension Range
11 mm 25 kg to 76.5 kg
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