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Alan Stewart

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Re: Electric Vespa
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 04:35:05 AM »

Knowing Vespa prices in the U.S., it won't be cheap.  ::)
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Re: Electric Vespa
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 06:00:26 AM »

Oh, but so sexy.
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Re: Electric Vespa
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 02:49:33 AM »

How fast can it go?


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Re: Electric Vespa
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 07:00:03 AM »

How many kWh is the battery pack?
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Re: Electric Vespa
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 09:08:59 PM »

Lots more details here.  Including mention of a hybrid Vespa X that uses an on-board gas generator to double its range.  While there is no mention of pricing, there is a section that discusses loan opportunities - which might tell you something about the scooter's pricing:   ::)
https://electricmotorcycles.news/iconic-vespa-goes-electric/
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Re: Electric Vespa
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 03:06:05 PM »

I completely don't get the gasoline-engine range extender version, on a vehicle this small. This class of Vespa (equiv. to the 50CC ones) aren't ridden fast -- 50km/h (30mph) is the typical top cruising speed. So aerodynamics aren't the big issue for range/efficiency they are for electric motorcycles in general.
With the exception of the courier market, noone would do >50km/day on one. Even couriers typically do only 60-80mi/day (100-130km) .
Surely a larger battery for a longer-range version would make a lot more sense than the complexity of adding engine+fuel tank (even if the engine doesn't drive the wheel and only charges the battery, as is the case here)? Even if adding battery capacity is a bit more expensive up front, surely it would even up fairly quickly by not needing to do the ICE engine maintenance?
Also, is it really worth it having a regen system for a vehicle this size?

I'm curious what this will end up costing, but unfortunately looking at Piaggio's PR, it's clear it'll be a hipster item & expensive, not primarily a transportation appliance.
As someone who had one of the original 2-stroke Vespas a long time ago, that's saddening... But at least, it's another Western mainstream P2W manufacturer offering an electric vehicle.
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