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cheerad

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Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« on: September 26, 2017, 05:03:30 PM »

Dear all,

I'm riding a 2011 DS for a couple of month now, and it drove quite well. Some weeks ago, the motor didn't start anymore after stopping at a traffic light for example. Sometimes it started after a couple of times switching on and off the ignition, sometimes I had to wait till the next day. I started checking everything, the motor, the connectors, reading out the MBB and the controller - no errors. I then measured the resistance of the throttle at the connectors to the controller, and realized that it is not connected directly, but through the MBB I guess. So to understand everything now and to find the error, I'm looking for a wiring diagram. My dealer doesn't have one, Zero in Europe tells me, that "we are not allowed sharing any technical details directly with customers regarding safety issues".
Can anybody help?

Thanks, Christoph
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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2017, 07:41:04 PM »

Dear all,

I'm riding a 2011 DS for a couple of month now, and it drove quite well. Some weeks ago, the motor didn't start anymore after stopping at a traffic light for example. Sometimes it started after a couple of times switching on and off the ignition, sometimes I had to wait till the next day. I started checking everything, the motor, the connectors, reading out the MBB and the controller - no errors. I the measured the resistance of the throttle at the connectors to the controller, and realized that it is not connected directly, but through the MBB I guess. So to understand everything now and to find the error, I'm looking for a wiring diagram. My dealer doesn't have on, Zero in Europe tells me, that "we are not allowed sharing any technical details directly with customers regarding safety issues".
Can anybody help?

Thanks, Christoph
This is for a 2013, not sure how much it matches yours:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Wiring_Diagram


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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 07:49:09 PM »

Dear all,

I'm riding a 2011 DS for a couple of month now, and it drove quite well. Some weeks ago, the motor didn't start anymore after stopping at a traffic light for example. Sometimes it started after a couple of times switching on and off the ignition, sometimes I had to wait till the next day. I started checking everything, the motor, the connectors, reading out the MBB and the controller - no errors. I the measured the resistance of the throttle at the connectors to the controller, and realized that it is not connected directly, but through the MBB I guess. So to understand everything now and to find the error, I'm looking for a wiring diagram. My dealer doesn't have on, Zero in Europe tells me, that "we are not allowed sharing any technical details directly with customers regarding safety issues".
Can anybody help?

Thanks, Christoph
Chris, when I had a similar problem, swapping out the sensor for the updated one fixed it for me: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7289.msg60715#msg60715

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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 07:58:06 PM »


This is for a 2013, not sure how much it matches yours:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Wiring_Diagram


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Hi Giacomo,

unfortunately the 2013 diagram seems to be quite different to the 2011 diagram.
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cheerad

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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 08:01:30 PM »

Chris, when I had a similar problem, swapping out the sensor for the updated one fixed it for me: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7289.msg60715#msg60715

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Hi David,

I've got an Agni motor, the Lynch design. I've been through your thread already   :).
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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2017, 10:03:37 PM »

Chris, when I had a similar problem, swapping out the sensor for the updated one fixed it for me: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7289.msg60715#msg60715

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Hi David,

I've got an Agni motor, the Lynch design. I've been through your thread already   :).
Oh, OK.
Thought Zero changed in 2010 - apologies.
I don't know too much about those models... You can probably get onto the motor terminals with a meter. See if you can measure voltage when you throttle it? If you do, then it is probably brushes that are the problem. How many miles on the bike?

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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2017, 10:36:22 PM »

... I'm looking for a wiring diagram. My dealer doesn't have one, Zero in Europe tells me, that "we are not allowed sharing any technical details directly with customers regarding safety issues".
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I would recommend calling Zero Customer Service, getting your dealer a wiring diagram and whatever other technical info they need to fix the problem.

I had a problem with my throttle on my 2011 Zero S, it was pulling a little when stopped, I contacted Zero Customer Service, and it turned out to be the throttle itself, Zero shipped me a new one for a self-install.



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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2017, 02:56:01 AM »

Oh, OK.
Thought Zero changed in 2010 - apologies.
I don't know too much about those models... You can probably get onto the motor terminals with a meter. See if you can measure voltage when you throttle it? If you do, then it is probably brushes that are the problem. How many miles on the bike?
The motor is running fine, if I just power up the Alltrax AXE controller with the motor connected to it. And I also used the original throttle. So the problem occurs, when everything is connected to the rest of the bike (the MBB).
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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2017, 01:45:30 PM »

Oh, OK.
Thought Zero changed in 2010 - apologies.
I don't know too much about those models... You can probably get onto the motor terminals with a meter. See if you can measure voltage when you throttle it? If you do, then it is probably brushes that are the problem. How many miles on the bike?
The motor is running fine, if I just power up the Alltrax AXE controller with the motor connected to it. And I also used the original throttle. So the problem occurs, when everything is connected to the rest of the bike (the MBB).
OK, the MBB huh...? But no fault code shown by the led flashes?
My understanding is that the MBB checks MANY electrical components before it allows the throttle signal to influence the controller to spin the motor - but you should see a fault code series of flashes. I guess it may be a faulty MBB itself? This (Spanish) guy Manuel shows how to swap one out:
'course, you need a replacement MBB and Spanish to benefit...

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Re: Zero DS 2011 wiring diagram
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 12:22:48 AM »

I have taken the wiring diagram from my 2010 DS, which I believe is pretty much the same as the 2011. It's drawn by hand, so I will not post it now, but I will draw it in the computer an post it here, OK?
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