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[Rugby4life]

Is there a J-plug to tesla adapter to use in case you find the next tesla station is out of range? From my home to either Chicago or New Orleans (2 of my fav destinations) there is a dead zone of about 150-200 miles. I think I've read about a 14-50 to tesla adapter for RV parks.

[Erasmo]

CCS and Chademo both go from 200-500 v on almost all stations. And average from 50-150A mostly 100A. I'm sitting at one in my leaf now doing 100A. With the SCv2 we can do 128A at far more places, 2 jplugs or 1 Tesla plug. The CCS and Chademo stations are always busy, and there just are not enough of them. If I didn't lease my leaf, I would already have SCv2 on it so I could charge faster. As it stands, I can travel much faster from LA to SF on my bike than my leaf because there are not enough chademos to make  the trip in the leaf. I must use jplugs because there is no other option. Which means on your Zero you would need to spend the night using your onboard if you only had Chademo. And charge slower than you could with an SCv2 the whole trip. Seems like a silly choice all around.

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I'm just wondering, are the Tesla destination chargers in North America 3-phase(capable)? Because they do offer a 3-phase 22kW charger.

On charging your Leaf, do you mean connection the SCv2 directly to the controller/pack? You could wire a chademo plug to your supercharger like this:



But with a SCV2 in the middle of course.

Is there a J-plug to tesla adapter to use in case you find the next tesla station is out of range? From my home to either Chicago or New Orleans (2 of my fav destinations) there is a dead zone of about 150-200 miles. I think I've read about a 14-50 to tesla adapter for RV parks.

You can just use the Tesla mobile connector for that:

[togo]

Is there a J-plug to tesla adapter to use in case you find the next tesla station is out of range? From my home to either Chicago or New Orleans (2 of my fav destinations) there is a dead zone of about 150-200 miles. I think I've read about a 14-50 to tesla adapter for RV parks.

Yes. Zak Vetter showed me the one that came with his mom's Model X, and I went and bought one right away. You can get them for $125 on eBay or cheaper directly from tesla. They are awesome, smaller than a can of soda.

[togo]

J1772 to Tesla adapter:

https://shop.tesla.com/us/en/product/vehicle-accessories/model-s_x_3-sae-j1772-charging-adapter.html?sku=1067348-00-A

You don't need to own a Tesla to buy one!

[benswing]

Do you ever run into the issue of the business (mostly upscale hotels around here) not allowing you to use their charger unless you're a registered guest?

Most places that have a Tesla charger also have a restaurant when you can spend your money. They are happy to take it.

[Rugby4life]

Do you ever run into the issue of the business (mostly upscale hotels around here) not allowing you to use their charger unless you're a registered guest?

Most places that have a Tesla charger also have a restaurant when you can spend your money. They are happy to take it.

If I ate something every 100 miles of a road trip, I's soon exceed the GVW of the bike. 

[Erasmo]

I am totally with you, and I have no idea. 

J1772 inlets are fairly easy to find, and CCS Combo seem to be much harder to price.

A CCS inlet is about €1300-1400.

You can get them from the BMW I3.
I got ahold of two, with the wrong wire color for about 120€. But I don’t know if I can get more.


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Ah using scrapped I3's is a smart move. Is the whole CCS IP over plug thingamajig actually open source?

[Rugby4life]

How many SCv2 modules (plus OEM charger) can be run with 1 Tesla plug?

[togo]

Tesla plugs are typically up to 18kw according to the tesla map.

For example, https://www.tesla.com/findus/location/charger/dc33080

18 divided by 3.3 is 5.45, so you could run 5 diginow units at full tilt from one.

That's 16.5kw, so you could expect any Zero under 16.5kwh total *nominal* capacity to disconnect itself if you try that (the 1C limit).

Some Tesla plugs are lower capacity, I've seen as low as 6kw.  (I don't put those stations on the touring metamap unless they are the only game in town.)

[Electric Terry]

How many SCv2 modules (plus OEM charger) can be run with 1 Tesla plug?

You can charge with 5 from a single 16 kW (underrated) Tesla plug at 16.5 kW

[Erasmo]

(I don't put those stations on the touring metamap unless they are the only game in town.)

It might be handy to do that for when the beefier charger is occupied.

[togo]

> >    (I don't put those stations on the touring metamap unless they are the only game in town.)

> It might be handy to do that for when the beefier charger is occupied.

That's what plugshare is for.  To show you *all* the stations. 

The e-touring metamap is not intended to replace tools like plugshare-- it's intended to reduce clutter, help you find the best stations to try first.  The goal is to have no more than 2-3 stations in each neighborhood or town.

[togo]

> If I ate something every 100 miles of a road trip, I's soon exceed the GVW of the bike. 

Espresso doppio counts : - )

[Neuer_User]

Last week I rented an Energica bike. It was incredible.
It has a combined CCS inlet. I charged it 5 times, always taking between 15 and 25 minutes (starting from between 30%-50% and charging to 95-100%) at 15 kW!

Very clear: that's the future!! This is (for me) the major selling point. I love my zero, but this makes me think about switching. (Energica is, however, rather expensive, and I don't like the noise it makes.)

And yes, it can also charge from AC, but only with up to 13 Amps (so about 3 kW).

[ultrarnr]

Neuer_User,

Couldn't agree more! And the future is now! There is a thread here about the 250 mile club. I have done that with my Zero SR and while clearly possible, it makes for a long day. A few weeks ago I rode my Eva about 277 miles in one day and it was not a big deal at all. That meant roughly 6 hours of riding and about 2 hours of charging. Charging times varied, 20-30 minutes. And what is even nicer is that the CCS system is built into the motorcycle, no additional chargers in side cases or top boxes. And what is sad is Zero had developed a DCFC for the Zero back in 2014. I had one on order for about 6 months for my SR before Zero canceled the order. But it didn't work with all systems and rather than work the bugs out of it Zero just gave up. Worst yet the systems that it did work well with were the kind of systems near me and that I would be using most of the time.

For all of these years Zero has had no real competition and as a result, could take their time on developing new features. Now with Energica on the market Zero has serious competition. For those who want to put serious mileage a day on an electric motorcycle, Energica is the only game in town. Want serious regen and one control riding? I rarely use my brakes when using the high regen setting on my Eva. Roll on the throttle to go, roll off to brake. When I go back to my SR it is hard to tell there is even any regen at all. Again, this is another area where Energica is far ahead of Zero. No question about it, competition is good for customers and if Energica forces Zero to innovate faster we all benefit.