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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2017, 04:13:17 AM »


We got recently our tesla superchargers and the good new is that these can do  as low as 50Volts DC output !!



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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2017, 11:51:01 AM »

OK, so sniff us some signalling : - )
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2017, 11:39:15 PM »

So is there a source for the optional Chademo system Zero offered in 2013?
No it's a third party.
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2017, 12:05:54 AM »

I read a while back that the superchargers are(were) simply a stack of ten of the chargers the cars have(had) built in, in parallel. CC/CV mode chargers could do that easily, with no mods. Is that still true?
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2017, 09:07:12 PM »

I read a while back that the superchargers are(were) simply a stack of ten of the chargers the cars have(had) built in, in parallel. CC/CV mode chargers could do that easily, with no mods. Is that still true?

Possible.. I saw few 50kW Chademo charge stations that also was using few 12kw charge units all in parallel.

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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2017, 05:20:45 AM »

Just so I correctly understand what's been presented, say you have an SCv2 which is compatible with both level 2 AC and level 3 DC, you would have separate plugs for each feeding into the same charger. In one case you would have a Chademo socket for DC and a J-plug socket for AC. In the other case you'd just have a CCS combo socket and the charger would work out what juice is coming in. If so, that only leaves the hurdle of communication between charging station and SCv2. Please don't bust my chops too hard over the word "only". It simply indicates that all the other technical hurdles have been overcome, even if the individual components haven't been woven together yet.
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2017, 05:21:53 AM »

That's how I read it, yes.
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2017, 05:35:38 AM »

There is one other hurdle, sourcing the inlet.

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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2017, 06:24:39 AM »

There is one other hurdle, sourcing the inlet.

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Do you mean availability or cost? I found this one http://tucsonev.com/chademo.html with a little Google-fu.
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« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2017, 06:36:32 AM »

Is there any reason (other than outlet cost) that you couldn't put a CCS combo outlet instead of a J-plug outlet on your SCv2 (new install) in anticipation of the bike to DC station communication issue being solved? You'd be able to use a standard level 2 J-plug today and still be ready for future level 3 usage, Right?
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2017, 02:10:26 AM »

Great idea, CCS Type 1 as an option for the US and CCS Type 2 option for the EU would be very nice..
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2017, 12:58:17 AM »

There is one other hurdle, sourcing the inlet.

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EC, Is it difficult to find a CCS inlet or is it just much more expensive?
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2017, 07:45:23 AM »

Is there any reason (other than outlet cost) that you couldn't put a CCS combo outlet instead of a J-plug outlet on your SCv2 (new install) in anticipation of the bike to DC station communication issue being solved? You'd be able to use a standard level 2 J-plug today and still be ready for future level 3 usage, Right?

CCS Combo inlet instead of vanilla J1772 is a cool idea.  Leaves room for expansion : - )

On the other hand, CCS Combo signalling is proprietary Ethernet-over-power, it may be more difficult to reverse engineer than chademo, which has canbus signalling.
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2017, 08:15:11 AM »

Togo,
I admit it's a small financial gamble that the CCS communication issue may never be solved. But I've been lurking on this forum for nearly a year and have seen some impressive innovations come about. Even if the solution doesn't come, I can still use it as a J-plug every day. BTW, does anyone know the price difference between the 2 inlets?
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Re: DC Charging Options
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2017, 08:27:07 AM »

I am totally with you, and I have no idea. 

J1772 inlets are fairly easy to find, and CCS Combo seem to be much harder to price.

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