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TheRebelFred

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Belt replacement cost
« on: June 30, 2017, 01:59:35 PM »

Hi Zeronauts,

I have and love my '14 Zero S for the past 42,000km (26,000 miles).
Just wore through my first belt and was quoted $250 AUD (Aussie dollars) for a replacement.
The old belt had two missing teeth and the rest were very brittle.
Do you think this is a regular price? I've seen references to $90 USD on this forum.

I already ordered it but should I consider other options for reducing maintenance costs like the new wider belt and gears or a chain drive in the future?

Cheers.
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 02:40:58 PM »

If ONLY for the belt that it sounds high. If it includes installation than it doesn't sound too bad.
You have to be sure that it is an equal comparison.
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 03:33:22 PM »

If ONLY for the belt that it sounds high. If it includes installation than it doesn't sound too bad.
You have to be sure that it is an equal comparison.
KrazyEd, that's $250 AUD just for the belt.
I'll be fitting it myself . I'm happy to learn and service the bike myself since I know it's going to be off the road for over a month while the belt arrives.

I've taken the wheels off, replaced the tyres, rebuilding the brake calipers and forks, replacing brake fluids and pads, and if time allows, painting the plastics with gloss black.

I'm new to this so I'm paying particular attention to the finer details because...safety first.

Will make a service post if I can too.


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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 04:04:24 PM »

Fitting a belt takes less than one hour, so that price is pretty high. You could ask them how long it takes to replace the belt
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2017, 04:18:19 PM »

Relevant unofficial manual wiki reference: http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Belt

Drop the swingarm, thread the new belt, replace swingarm, you know how to do the rest... except!
Pay attention to the advice about belt alignment. There's a trick to it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 04:46:26 PM »

Lecram and Shadow, I've already taken the swing arm off and it was as easy as you said.
Will have to think about type of threadlock to use when tightening swing arm bolts and torque settings (not is user manual).
Alignment for the swing arm is not really possible but wheel alignment has to bet set correctly. I'm guessing you can set the correct tension and just alternate the left and right tension bolt and spin the wheel until there's an even space on either side of the belt. Then just check tension again.


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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 05:03:52 PM »

Hi Zeronauts,

...............

I already ordered it but should I consider other options for reducing maintenance costs like the new wider belt and gears or a chain drive in the future?

Cheers.

Is replacing sheaves (pulleys) to acomadate a wider belt an option (2016 DSR)?
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 06:40:10 PM »

Hi Zeronauts,

...............

I already ordered it but should I consider other options for reducing maintenance costs like the new wider belt and gears or a chain drive in the future?

Cheers.

Is replacing sheaves (pulleys) to acomadate a wider belt an option (2016 DSR)?

Anything is an option, but realistically, no.  I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, so just repeating what I read here.   There's some other posts on the forums that explain about why it would be a challenge.

I have not had an issue with my belt yet, but I ordered a spare to keep at home, just in case, so I don't have to wait for a replacement like OP. 

Hi Zeronauts,

I have and love my '14 Zero S for the past 42,000km (26,000 miles).
Just wore through my first belt and was quoted $250 AUD (Aussie dollars) for a replacement.
The old belt had two missing teeth and the rest were very brittle.
Do you think this is a regular price? I've seen references to $90 USD on this forum.

I already ordered it but should I consider other options for reducing maintenance costs like the new wider belt and gears or a chain drive in the future?

Cheers.

If you went 42,000 km on one belt, I don't think you'd be reducing any maintenance costs changing to chain drive, as chain and sprockets will last about the same, plus upfront costs, plus cleaning and adjusting the chain, plus noise.  I think chain drive would be a good option if you were riding off road a lot and getting damage from sticks and rocks.  I prefer my belt for on the road.
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 07:45:21 PM »

Domingo3, I agree with you especially about the noise of chain drives. I'm probably just going to order replacement parts from the U.S. directly if it saves money.
In regards to the wider belt, it may be similar to the compromise of wider tyres vs narrower tyres. Wider tyres provide more grip but higher rolling resistance so for our bikes, the right size tyres have already been chosen well by the Zero engineers. And similarly, the wider belt may be more suitable for the higher torque and power of 2017 bikes whereas the narrower belt is more suited to pre 2017 bikes.

It's all good food for thought though.


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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 08:26:36 PM »

Hi Zeronauts,

I have and love my '14 Zero S for the past 42,000km (26,000 miles).
Just wore through my first belt and was quoted $250 AUD (Aussie dollars) for a replacement.
The old belt had two missing teeth and the rest were very brittle.
Do you think this is a regular price? I've seen references to $90 USD on this forum.

I already ordered it but should I consider other options for reducing maintenance costs like the new wider belt and gears or a chain drive in the future?

Cheers.
If I remember correctly you're already 2000 km above the recommended replacement point. Some American dealers do dropshipping to overseas, that might be an option especially since the belt should fit in an envelope.
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2017, 09:10:36 PM »

The last replacement belt that I bought from my dealer for my 2014 S cost $80 USD.  (I haven't needed to use it yet.)  I might add that it seemed to be a standard Gates belt part.
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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2017, 09:48:13 PM »

The last replacement belt that I bought from my dealer for my 2014 S cost $80 USD.  (I haven't needed to use it yet.)  I might add that it seemed to be a standard Gates belt part.

I just ordered a new belt from the Norwegian dealer - similar cost as AUS $ 250. That should be more than double the US $80 price.

My problem is a small stone in the belt:

Anyone who has experience with this problem? What is the probability for the belt to snap? Should I remove the stone? Change the best ASAP?


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Re: Belt replacement cost
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 10:45:33 PM »

This is the only alternative I could find: http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5956802d7141f/platinum-design-manual-brochure-foldout.pdf


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Belt replacement cost
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2017, 11:09:14 PM »

The last replacement belt that I bought from my dealer for my 2014 S cost $80 USD.  (I haven't needed to use it yet.)  I might add that it seemed to be a standard Gates belt part.

I just ordered a new belt from the Norwegian dealer - similar cost as AUS $ 250. That should be more than double the US $80 price.

My problem is a small stone in the belt:

Anyone who has experience with this problem? What is the probability for the belt to snap? Should I remove the stone? Change the best ASAP?


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I would change the belt. It'll snap when you need it least. The prize is the same if you change it to day, before it snaps or the day after you've been stranded.


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Belt replacement cost
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2017, 11:34:54 PM »

Yeah, at least order a belt ahead of it snapping.

Also, I'll add recommendations to the manual to clean the sprockets regularly and particularly when changing the belt, since sprocket debris makes a belt wear faster.
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