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Say10 15FX 16FXS

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Brake Pads
« on: May 26, 2017, 03:50:16 AM »

Here are some different pads I found.

EBC FA208R all JJuan rears pic 1&2

EBC FA209HH SR, FXS front pic 3

SBS 674HS, next to EBC209HH SR, FXS front pic 4

EBC FA181HH FX JJuan front next post both pics
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2017, 03:56:34 AM »

These are '15 FX front EBC FA181R
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2017, 05:18:31 AM »

So, for reference, we have this maintained table of brake pad compatibility by model and year:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Brake_Pad_Fit

What kind of confirmation do you have here? Is it for your 2016FXS?

Did you identify these based on a catalog listing?

Which have been physically confirmed?

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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2017, 12:32:49 AM »

May be hard to see but I have taken the pads out of my bikes and laid them on top. Exact match, not sure about the DS as I don't have any way to compare. These photos were taken on my bench. I knew the EBCs were great pads but the catalog was all wrong. I did a lot of cross referencing off the SBS (makers of the stock pads) catalog. None of these were more than $30 shipped off eBay. The stock FXS fronts were 60 squids from the dealer with a discount! My FXS rear was dragging and sounded like a hamster wheel, it was driving me nuts! I removed the pads, pumped the piston out a little, cleaned, and put the EBCs in. Now it is perfect and has better "feel".
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2017, 10:48:51 PM »

Great. But which exact pads did you put in your rear calipers? What were the stock pads labeled? Without exact match numbers, this is confusing to interpret.
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 05:13:14 AM »

Also, I'm assuming if it fits the SR, it'll fit the S?
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2017, 07:39:48 PM »

It should, I think the calipers are the same. I updated the first post to clarify which pads are shown.
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 01:03:43 PM »

First, thanks for updating the post with the fitments. I hope you understand if I have to keep this information bracketed from what's listed right now, as we need more people confirming fits before making a firm declaration.

I have to admit, I'm getting tired of having dealers tell me the EBC catalog is right and then I wind up with squealing brake pads. My rides with my girlfriend just got embarrassing again because I have to reseat brakes. This is not a good look for an effectively silent motorcycle. If I can hear my turn signals click, the brake pads and calipers had better be mated properly.

I'm also getting tired of maintaining a manual for free that the OEM can't bring itself to support properly, by trying to interpret forum threads.

Okay, I'm done complaining. Thanks for the work!
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 01:06:13 PM »

It should, I think the calipers are the same. I updated the first post to clarify which pads are shown.

Do you have the stock pads around? What labels do they have?
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 02:17:49 PM »

Okay, so I think I have all that integrated smoothly into the table, after crosschecking about 5 damn brake pad threads, brake catalog translators, and making sure to take first-hand fit reports over catalog entries:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Brake_Pad_Fit

I think we had the FX rotors wrong, and that they are fixed vs floating and a different size. I also had FA185 listed as a rear brake which I can find no support for and must be one of those lovely bugs one can only get trying to edit a mediawiki table via code. We need a better editor tool.
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2017, 03:09:46 AM »

Sorry for any confusion, I thought it was clearer but I also knew exactly what I was looking at! I'm going to post pics with descriptions to each.

First pic, SBS front for S,SR,FXS (probably DS, DSR) with anti rattle shim right from the dealer. These are SBS674HS, or EBC209HH in the aftermarket.

Second pic, close up of part numbers

Third pic, Zero part number on packaging
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2017, 03:13:02 AM »

Pic of the stock rear pads removed from '16 FXS and replaced with EBC FA208R.
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Re: Brake Pads
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2017, 03:41:06 AM »

Brian, thanks for all your hard work on the Wiki, etc. I will update this as I learn more. My next move is to replace the rear fluid with ATE racing (higher boiling point) fluid. Then dial in the front with fluid, maybe a custom rotor or a Beringer master cylinder or???
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