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DonTom

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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2017, 12:46:04 AM »


> BTW, I have many Android tablets (none have cell phone & my PAYG cell is a rather stupid phone). None of my tablets work with the Zero program. Some are very new, some quite old.  Are there any that is compatible with the Zero program that don't have the phone, or will I have to buy a SmartPhone or what?

You should probably start a new topic for this.
Yeah, but now no need. I bought  a  cheap new  Sumsung Galaxy J1 (about $50.00@ Best Buy) which works perfectly with the Zero software.

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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2017, 10:55:08 AM »

OK, cool.  If you still want to run it on your tablet as well, you can back
up the app (I use Astro File Manager) and then transfer the .apk file...
I'd had a look at Don's tablet computer devices, none are ARM processor with Android. I don't think Windows for tablet or Android for Intel are supported targets of the Zero Motorcycles App. There was an older phone Samsung Galaxy Player that was Android and ARM processor but its version of Android was too old. There may have been a way to either install a newer Android ROM to that older phone or to install an older package of the Zero Motorcycles App that would run on the older version of Android, but that's a lot of time and effort for less than an ideal outcome.

It is far easier to suggest buying a new device that would run the Zero Motorcycles App.
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Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #107 on: October 06, 2017, 08:31:56 AM »

Question about a full charge on a 2017 DSR. When I charge the bike and it stops at 100%. I only see 12.054 kWhours on the battery. Is this pretty standard with all the 2017 models. Are they only allowing the batteries to charge to 90% wattage but displays 100% on screen. I tried unplugging and plugging in and it never charges beyond 12.054 kWhours. Any information on what others are seeing would be great.


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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2017, 09:47:25 AM »

...stops at 100%. I only see 12.054 kWhours...
This is normal operation for ZF13.0 and there is a pessimism factor built into the percent readout as well (6% for my 2016 DSR). You could charge the battery to 13kWh capacity but then the bike would not operate, it is designed for longer cycle life and less stress to degrade the pack.
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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #109 on: October 06, 2017, 10:53:14 AM »

> ...stops at 100%. I only see 12.054 kWhours...

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-ds/2017/specs.php?model=dsr

Look at the "nominal capacity"

[2017-10-19 I editted the link above to link to the 2017 specs, specifically, since the URL without a year now points to 2018 specs]
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 02:56:55 AM by togo »
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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #110 on: October 06, 2017, 04:36:44 PM »

Thank you very much for clarifying. I skipped right over that in the specs. Makes sense to me now. Thank you both for explaining. I was getting confused when reading thru the threads here. Everything seemed ok because my range is about where it needs to be based on riding and conditions. Ill just pay attention to see if that number ever tapers off in the future.


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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #111 on: October 14, 2017, 02:52:07 AM »

I use an energy saving mains socket for PCs:
http://www.ansmann.de/en/products/chargers-power-supplies/energy-saving-mains-sockets/aes3?___store=en

It's programmable to the standby consumption of the plugged in device and switches power off after 1 minute as soon as the standby draw have been reached.
Power on is via push button.

I see you program it by pushing the red button.  I don't see what the limits are.  Specs are a little sparse.  Can it really be told that 500 watts or so should be considered standby?  Or is it some more normal figure, like Wemo Insight's limit of 99 watts.

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Lost my faith in Zero with my 2011 S, but regained it with my 2014 SR.  Diginow SCv2 changed my SR from a fun ride to primary transport.

2014 Zero SR, accessorized. 2008 Vectrix VX-1 NiMH. 2001 Honda Helix.

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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #112 on: October 17, 2017, 09:55:56 PM »

I ordered one of the eurospec ones to try

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122689768397

(I already have a euro style power strip coming off the nema 14-50.)

It'll be interesting to see if it can be told that 800 watts or so should be considered "standby".

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It's like flying, but with more traction.  And none of that Z-axis complexity.

Lost my faith in Zero with my 2011 S, but regained it with my 2014 SR.  Diginow SCv2 changed my SR from a fun ride to primary transport.

2014 Zero SR, accessorized. 2008 Vectrix VX-1 NiMH. 2001 Honda Helix.

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Re: Email From Zero: Updated Firmware and Charging Recommendations
« Reply #113 on: November 18, 2017, 11:30:39 PM »

Well, I just got back from getting the latest software flashed on to my Zero S.  It reset my "Custom" settings but I was easily able to change them back to what I like.

One other thing I noticed was that as soon as the bluetooth connection was established, the display on the app went directly into the "Riding Screen" mode.  I used to have to manually select that.  If I want to get into the "Settings" screen it looks like I have to deploy the sidestand... THEN I can get into the "Settings" panel.

So far, that's all I've noticed.
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