All good valid opinions here,
Just a quick compliment to everybody here on this forum.
I must make a huge compliment to everybody here on this forum.
Usually by the fourth or so reply, shit is flying through the air in an appalling way in other forums, unless it is a professional one.
This generally speaking doesn't happen here, at least since I have more recently joint this forum and in the threads I have visited.
It is delightful to see that it looks like that people who are interested in good, new concepts of transportation or others for that matter seem to have more brains and communication skills than the general social media addicted cell phone head down masses.
I love how all these different opinions are sitting here peacefully next to each other, and how we can have a really nice exchange about our preferences without ripping eachother's heads off.
Now this is a long post but written from my heart. I hope it resonates with some of you, because it touches the "real" reasons why I ride and will ride until I die or they only built fool proof bikes.
Now for electronic regulating systems.
Everything fails eventually and I for my part having grown up with only manual gear boxes, no power steering, no power windows, no AC, etc, etc.... must say that although all this automation is kind of, "wow... how nice is that" for a moment,
that every time I drive a car with traction control, I get a huge surge of general displeasure when it kicks in and my need to actually drive that damn thing is actually completely killed and I feel like I actually don't have the same responsibility anymore I thought I have negotiating a turn.
No that darn thing is doing it for me, the one thing that can go wrong, cannot go wrong anymore. Ahhhhh...... that is scary.
That's why it's called negotiating a turn, not I don't care, my bike will sort it out turn.
I tried turning the anti skid, anti slip, anti drift and anti drive systems all off to actually get a feel for the vehicle I am driving. Heck, no way, they manage to keep at least one anti somewhat in there and it feels even weirder and more alienating to what "driving" is supposed to feel like in the first place.
It makes driving no driving but "simply get there".
I remember when ABS came out, people were actually having accidents because they thought ABS meant having super brakes.
So two things.
There will be Teslas and the likes in about 10 years that will be economically not viable to repair anymore because of malfunctioning automatic ass wipe systems build in the seats.
They have blind spot warning systems now on cars. That must be for people that have a cervical spine injury and cannot clear their dead spot manually anymore.
And then they have..... oh wait these freaking things are supposed to drive us without our input all together.....ahhhhhhh....
I am a helicopter pilot instructor and evertime I flew by instruments (simulated conditions) or with aircraft that have autopilot, I started hating flying instantly.
I don't want to hate riding, because sooner or later you won't be able to turn the ass wiper off on your Zero either because of popular demand, so they can sell bikes with a torque curve that without proper training no one can handle and shouldn't.
If it keeps people from riding a powerful bike, sorry guys, that is just my, however questionable opinion, GOOD.
No one suggests to have a rider with minimal experience (less than 10 years of constant riding of different handable bikes) to go to a Ducati dealership and test ride or buy a 170 hp rocket either. So what are we discussing here?
I rode every single Ducati Model on their shop floor and the reason why I shelled out exactly the same money for a Zero R model is because it gave me the same fascinating "time machine effect" to have torque that is actually a game changer in someone's lifestyle.
Plus the overall smashing genius of a maintenance and noise free time machine.
But guys, the Zero R bikes are not for beginners. They don't need to be tamed for beginners.
They are too torquey (how do tiny spell that) and too expensive for people who don't have a lot of experience, and I mean a lot.
These are rockets and to be treated just like one.
There is a reason why I spent 33 years on bikes, winter (Germany) summer (Germany same shit weather hahaha).
I like having something left that not everybody can do without having to actually make some serious and very natural survival decisions.
If you take the rest risk (which in my opinion is 5-10%) out of flying or riding a motorcycle, I'll stay home, get fat and play stupid video games all day long.
Yes, you can die on a motorcycle more easily, but that is actually what I find extremely essential to make riding more attractive than driving in a car with 22 airbags.
There is something that somehow switches in a human being when everything is perceived to be safe.
There is a fine line at what point it is stupid to take unnecessary risks, like flying a helicopter or airplane that isn't airworthy (happens every single second while I am typing), but deciding to buy a Zero and having it packed full of stuff that actually make it not a Zero anymore but just another vehicle with 22 airbags.... NO.... please, I implore you.
Even that ABS makes me nervous, since it kills my instinct to having to negotiate the traction of my tires loaded up with braking forces.
I almost had an accident during my test ride of every single Zero model last year because that stupid ABS completely surprises me on a FXS and didn't give me the ability to actually utilize otherwise available traction because it was pretty sluggish to recover and give me the bike back as it should be. I got so pissed at the Bosch engineers in that moment.
I locked up my front ZRX-1200 three times already, (never happened really on my smaller bikes, only the rear of course) and every time my instinct did the right thing and let it come back up and be ok. And that bike has 490 lbs wet or so.
Proper rider training and for that matter driver training is not optional and there will never be an electronic system that can substitute the dangerous attitude that especially young riders and drivers will develop because these awesome systems save their asses pretty much everyday once they get used to it being there.
Automation generally can be dangerous when it forfeits actual skills that were never learned.
Now let me get into my onstar connected automated airbag full body suit and on my Bluetooth motion sensored, anti everything with step control, fart protection, fully anti slip and fun protected ultra future everybody simply hold on to my auto balanced, un crashable, quatrouple sensored, i effin.. phone app controlled wing suit twisted full force what the f..... is all that shit that keeps on giving me twenty thousand stupid control lights and status messages so I can not even see the road anymore bike.....
You all know I am kidding.
I hear everybody's opinion as a valid opinion and accept it.
I don't have to agree, but there is a very true, very powerful essence of keeping us people connected with our visceral senses to what we are actually doing and you cannot have 100% safety and expect the same experience from it.
It will be castrated fun, Disney Land fun, not the fun that I am looking for when I am getting on my bike every day to actually experience some of the essential things of life.
And yes, every time I pull the collective and push the cyclic forward to take off in a helicopter I am 100 % in control of what the aircraft is doing, no computer is helping me and that is how I like it, and that is how I like my Zero to be.
And so far, I have not been disappointed.
That is actually why I shelled out the extra money to get the extra brunt and I keep it on "custom" cranked up everhing all the time.
All ABS, slip slide and stupid control aside, at the end of the day I am responsible to get off this thing alive or not and I LOVE that element of riding my Electric Lady.
I call her a "Sleek Cat on Drugs"
Honestly, I cannot wait to see the even more powerful and ravaging versions coming out, I won't be able to afford it, but I like those choices in our lives.
Please don't script it away with code for a, in my eyes, false sense of control.
I rode 178, 200, 500, 600, 750 and 1200 bikes for decades and took cornering classss (Keith Code's superbike school) before I was ready to drag my knees and to slide out of turns under power on dry asphalt without braking a sweat but with a huge grin on my face.
You cannot have it both ways. You cannot have your cake and eat it too:)
We should follow the same principle that has worked for decades.
If one isn't ready for a liter bike, don't buy one.
And believe me, almost no one is ready for a liter bike and actually be able to ride it properly.
A Zero that has an R in it is a liter bike.
Please don't castrate my Cat