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Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« on: January 18, 2017, 05:14:29 AM »

  I was riding into work on my FXS this morning at full throttle at almost max speed when I the bike suddenly slowed.  The best way I can describe it is it felt like a very strong regen (way stronger than what 100% feels like) for a second or so.  I quickly rolled off the throttle and things seemed to go back to normal so I continued riding.  No other issues were experienced on the ride back home this afternoon.  Logs obtained from the online parser are pasted below.  This happened around 7:07 AM as indicated on the dash, so I think something is a little off on the times in the log file.  It was close to the end of my trip, so my best guess is that this happened around 04:53 in the logs.
  Has anyone had an experience like this before, or does anyone see anything unusual in the logs?  I have seen the SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame and Batt Dischg Cur Limited  other places in the logs, so those are not unique to this time.  It looks like there's a big discrepancy between MotAmps and BattAmps, but I'm not that familiar with the logs and don't know if that means anything of significance. 

Any ideas on anything else to look at or check?  The experience was a little unnerving.  It would be nice to know what happened and if it was some kind of isolated incident or something that needs to be looked at for warranty.  Taking it into a dealer would mean renting a trailer and several hours of driving.


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08063     01/17/2017 04:33:15   Calex 720W Charger 0 Disconnected
 08064     01/17/2017 04:33:15   Calex 1200W Charger 1 Disconnected
 08065                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External
 08066                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 08067                       0   Key On
 08068                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode
 08069                       0   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 08070                       0   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 08071                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 08072                       0   Module 01 CAN Link Up
 08073                       0   Module 01 Registered       serial: 16sg2651,  vmod: 115.981V
 08074     01/17/2017 04:36:48   Module 00 CAN Link Up
 08075     01/17/2017 04:36:48   Module 00 Registered       serial: 16sg2654,  vmod: 115.940V
 08076     01/17/2017 04:36:48   Sevcon Turned On
 08077     01/17/2017 04:36:48   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 08078     01/17/2017 04:36:48   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 08079     01/17/2017 04:36:49   Sevcon CAN Link Up
 08080     01/17/2017 04:36:49   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.
 08081     01/17/2017 04:36:49   Module 00 Closing Contactor  vmod: 115.931V, maxsys: 115.976V, minsys: 115.898V, diff: 0.078V, vcap: 102.437V, prechg: 88%
 08082     01/17/2017 04:36:49   Module 01 Closing Contactor  vmod: 115.965V, maxsys: 115.976V, minsys: 115.898V, diff: 0.078V, vcap: 102.437V, prechg: 88%
 08083     01/17/2017 04:36:49   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed
 08084     01/17/2017 04:36:49   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2
 08085     01/17/2017 04:36:49   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3
 08086     01/17/2017 04:36:49   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed
 08087     01/17/2017 04:36:51   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 08088     01/17/2017 04:36:51   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 08089     01/17/2017 04:36:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.943V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  28C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM: 505, Odo: 4943km
 08090     01/17/2017 04:37:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:114.419V, MotAmps:  41, BattAmps:  26, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  31C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:2179, Odo: 4944km
 08091     01/17/2017 04:38:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:114.242V, MotAmps:  88, BattAmps:  27, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:1082, Odo: 4944km
 08092     01/17/2017 04:39:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC: 98%, Vpack:112.590V, MotAmps:  43, BattAmps:  40, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:3347, Odo: 4945km
 08093     01/17/2017 04:40:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC: 98%, Vpack:114.408V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1438, Odo: 4946km
 08094     01/17/2017 04:41:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC: 97%, Vpack:112.568V, MotAmps:  43, BattAmps:  38, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:3285, Odo: 4947km
 08095     01/17/2017 04:42:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 21C, PackSOC: 97%, Vpack:114.026V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1422, Odo: 4948km
 08096     01/17/2017 04:43:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 95%, Vpack:111.131V, MotAmps:  66, BattAmps:  58, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:3048, Odo: 4949km
 08097     01/17/2017 04:44:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 95%, Vpack:112.835V, MotAmps:  17, BattAmps:  11, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:1947, Odo: 4950km
 08098     01/17/2017 04:45:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 94%, Vpack:112.475V, MotAmps:  31, BattAmps:  17, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:2028, Odo: 4951km
 08099     01/17/2017 04:46:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 94%, Vpack:113.143V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:1840, Odo: 4951km
 08100     01/17/2017 04:47:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 92%, Vpack:108.618V, MotAmps:  72, BattAmps:  81, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  21C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:3912, Odo: 4953km
 08101     01/17/2017 04:48:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 91%, Vpack:109.989V, MotAmps:  74, BattAmps:  61, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  43C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:2649, Odo: 4954km
 08102     01/17/2017 04:49:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 90%, Vpack:110.058V, MotAmps:  28, BattAmps:  30, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  20C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:3636, Odo: 4955km
 08103     01/17/2017 04:50:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 89%, Vpack:111.280V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  20C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:2624, Odo: 4956km
 08104     01/17/2017 04:51:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 88%, Vpack:106.916V, MotAmps:  85, BattAmps: 102, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  45C, CtrlTemp:  21C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:4109, Odo: 4957km
 08105     01/17/2017 04:52:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 23C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:104.118V, MotAmps:  90, BattAmps: 150, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  59C, CtrlTemp:  26C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:4943, Odo: 4958km
 08106     01/17/2017 04:53:38   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 04 01 00, Unknown
 08107     01/17/2017 04:53:48   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x00, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 00 00 74, Unknown
 08108     01/17/2017 04:53:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 27C, l 26C, PackSOC: 80%, Vpack:103.283V, MotAmps:  41, BattAmps:  65, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  82C, CtrlTemp:  30C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:4718, Odo: 4960km
 08109     01/17/2017 04:53:57   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    404 A (77%), MinCell: 3537mV, MaxPackTemp: 27C
 08110     01/17/2017 04:54:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 28C, l 27C, PackSOC: 78%, Vpack:104.892V, MotAmps:  93, BattAmps:  92, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  69C, CtrlTemp:  25C, AmbTemp:  16C, MotRPM:3383, Odo: 4961km
 08111     01/17/2017 04:55:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 28C, l 28C, PackSOC: 78%, Vpack:108.376V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:  -1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  65C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4962km
 08112     01/17/2017 04:56:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 28C, l 28C, PackSOC: 78%, Vpack:108.286V, MotAmps:  26, BattAmps:   8, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  58C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM: 735, Odo: 4962km
 08113     01/17/2017 04:57:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 28C, l 28C, PackSOC: 77%, Vpack:108.521V, MotAmps:  22, BattAmps:   5, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  55C, CtrlTemp:  23C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM: 242, Odo: 4962km
 08114     01/17/2017 04:58:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 28C, l 28C, PackSOC: 77%, Vpack:107.826V, MotAmps:  39, BattAmps:  19, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  56C, CtrlTemp:  24C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1669, Odo: 4963km
 08115     01/17/2017 04:59:57   Riding                     PackTemp: h 28C, l 28C, PackSOC: 76%, Vpack:107.980V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  54C, CtrlTemp:  23C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1907, Odo: 4963km
 08116     01/17/2017 05:00:51   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 08117     01/17/2017 05:00:51   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 08118     01/17/2017 05:00:57   Power Off                  Key Switch
 08119     01/17/2017 05:00:57   Sevcon Turned Off
 08120     01/17/2017 05:00:57   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod: 108.266V, batt curr:   1A
 08121     01/17/2017 05:00:57   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod: 108.285V, batt curr:   0A
 08122     01/17/2017 05:00:57   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2
 08123     01/17/2017 05:00:57   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3
 08124                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External
 08125                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 08126                       0   Key On
 08127                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode
 08128                       0   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 08129                       0   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 08130                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 08131                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 08132                       1   Sevcon Turned On
 08133                       1   Module 01 CAN Link Up
 08134                       1   Module 01 Registered       serial: 16sg2651,  vmod: 109.032V
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 06:46:35 AM »

didn't see this a couple posts down?   Sudden Braking Followed by No Response on Highway

what year is your bike? 2016? if so this is at least the 2nd case. i would definitely be contacting Zero and sending some logs with a detailed description of the event.

this does not make me happy to hear...

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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2017, 08:31:33 AM »

Yes, it's a 2016.  Sounds like it could be the same thing, but your experience was clearly more severe than mine.    My experience was more like Fred's. Have you gotten any response about this?  Will send logs now. If it is the same thing, I don't think it has anything to do with water.  I haven't ridden in the rain in a few weeks.
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 09:34:03 AM »

This sounds like a ride through fault that is very rare but usually will only happen at full throttle situations where the Sevcon is at the power limits of its current control.  It's nothing to worry too much about.  If you don't like it, switch to custom mode and set max torque to 95% and that should fix it.  You are just at the very edge limit.  In fact you could probably set it to 98% and be ok.  This is just a guess on my part but its what it sounds like to me.  Try that and see.
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle (top of logs)?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 02:35:13 PM »

What's your firmware and board version?
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle (top of logs)?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 06:57:38 PM »

What's your firmware and board version?

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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 07:16:35 PM »

I hope this isn't an indication of something inherently wrong with the FXS.
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2017, 02:51:57 AM »

Sadly, I have to admit that I already experienced something very similar on my MY16 FXS. Message looks quite similar, I also noticed a sudden drawback of power, but I can't confirm whether I could have ridden on or not, as I turned off and back on immediately. I first thought I might have run into the custom speed limit, but it was set higher. Nevertheless I want to test soon how it feels to get to the customized speed limit.

Apparently, owning a Zero isn't worry free yet.

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02511     01/06/2017 05:59:19   Riding                     PackTemp: h 10C, l 9C, PackSOC: 93%, Vpack:105.813V, MotAmps:  57, BattAmps:  53, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  29C, CtrlTemp:   5C, AmbTemp:   0C, MotRPM:3216, Odo: 1469km
02512     01/06/2017 05:59:19   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    507 A (97%), MinCell: 3633mV, MaxPackTemp: 10C
02513     01/06/2017 06:00:19   Riding                     PackTemp: h 11C, l 9C, PackSOC: 91%, Vpack:107.329V, MotAmps:  29, BattAmps:  32, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  29C, CtrlTemp:   5C, AmbTemp:   0C, MotRPM:3586, Odo: 1470km
02514     01/06/2017 06:00:56   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 04 01 00, Unknown
02515     01/06/2017 06:00:57   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x00, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 00 00 00, Unknown
02516     01/06/2017 06:00:57   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 04 02 00, Unknown
02517     01/06/2017 06:01:00   Power Off                  Key Switch
 
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2017, 03:09:18 AM »

Lenny were you at full throttle when it happened?  Did you see my comment above?
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2017, 03:18:10 AM »

Can't remember exactly as this happened already a few days ago and I didn't pull the logs until yesterday. Probably I was, because I just overtook someone and was speeding up even more. Anyway this shouldn't happen, limiting torque by the app is a workaround and not a real solution ;-)

Just found a list with SEVCON error codes. Can't find "46C3" as in our logs, but the "52C3" out of MajorMajor's logs from the other thread is a "current control fault".

http://jan.peman.com/hacks/EmergencyErrorCodes.txt

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07313     01/10/2017 14:13:03   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 04 01 00, Unknown
 07314     01/10/2017 14:13:04   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x00, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 00 00 99, Unknown
 07315     01/10/2017 14:13:04   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 04 02 00, Unknown
 07316     01/10/2017 14:13:04   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x00, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 00 00 23, Unknown
 07317     01/10/2017 14:13:04   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x52C3, Data: 00 00 00, Unknown
 07318     01/10/2017 14:13:04   Restarting Sevcon to clear cutout fault

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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2017, 03:28:29 AM »

Right if you read what I wrote above, current control is exactly what I figured.  Zero could have sold the bike and dialed back power 10% from the factory, but I think they dialed it up to try to give everyone as much power as possible since instances of this happening is so rare, and when it does, it's supposed to self correct.  Called a ride through fault, all you have to do is return the throttle to the off position and it should reset and give acceleration again.  This would happen on my 2012 a lot, maybe 10 times a day, but at the time wasn't a ride through, so would require a key cycle.  Updates later came that made them ride through as well. 

On my 2015 I've never had one, but perhaps on the next bike they should hide some power so it's not on the edge of current control, what do you think?  I personally would say give the user all the power, as a current control fault if it were to ever happen is not the end of the world.  No worse than on my gas bikes hitting condensation drops on hot humid days and cool nights where the fuel line would hit water and lose power for 10 seconds or so until fresh fuel got to the injectors again.
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 11:42:04 PM »

Terry,

  I really appreciate the information that you share with us.  I wish that we could get this kind of stuff officially from Zero rather than relying on 2nd hand information (although I consider you to be pretty reliable).

  I wanted to check with you, though, to make sure we're talking about the same phenomenon.  I know what coasting feels like, and I know what "100%" regen feels like, and this was neither one of those.  There was very significant resistance from the back wheel - several times "100%" regen.  Is this the ride-through fault that you are suggesting?  If so, what is actually happening that causes the resistance? 
  Do you know if this correlates to SEVCON error code 46C3 as Lenny speculated?  I've seen that particular error code in other instances in my logs, but this is the only time something happened that I could sense.

  I am by no means alarmist, but I think that this is dangerous and not something to dismiss as "not the end of the world".  Again, it's not simply loss of power, it's a rapid deceleration that occurs unpredictably.  If this were to happen just as a car was cutting too close to me, it would cause an accident.  Dialing back the torque by a few percent isn't appealing, since you're giving up power everywhere to prevent something that happens only at high speed.  Is this something that firmware could address?
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 06:07:22 AM »

This happened to me again last week.  Like before, it was transient, but unexpected and unnerving.  I noticed motor temperature jumped pretty dramatically both times this happened.






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06959     02/13/2017 14:31:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 27C, l 27C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:107.024V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  47C, CtrlTemp:  26C, AmbTemp:  24C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 5915km
 06960     02/13/2017 14:32:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 27C, l 27C, PackSOC: 72%, Vpack:106.152V, MotAmps:  27, BattAmps:   4, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  49C, CtrlTemp:  28C, AmbTemp:  23C, MotRPM: 425, Odo: 5916km
 06961     02/13/2017 14:33:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 29C, l 29C, PackSOC: 67%, Vpack:101.626V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   8, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  77C, CtrlTemp:  40C, AmbTemp:  23C, MotRPM:5359, Odo: 5917km
 06962     02/13/2017 14:33:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    383 A (73%), MinCell: 3606mV, MaxPackTemp: 29C
 06963     02/13/2017 14:34:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 30C, l 30C, PackSOC: 65%, Vpack: 95.617V, MotAmps: 103, BattAmps: 249, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  86C, CtrlTemp:  40C, AmbTemp:  23C, MotRPM:5979, Odo: 5918km
 06964     02/13/2017 14:34:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    455 A (87%), MinCell: 3406mV, MaxPackTemp: 30C
 06965     02/13/2017 14:34:26   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 04 01 00, Unknown
 06966     02/13/2017 14:34:26   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x4000, Error Reg: 0x48, Sevcon Error Code: 0x4603, Data: 00 FF 00, Unknown
 06967     02/13/2017 14:34:35   0x26 0x64 0x00 0x2b 0x00 0x0d 0x9e ???
 06968     02/13/2017 14:34:36   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x08, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 03 46 99, Unknown
 06969     02/13/2017 14:34:45   0x26 0x66 0x00 0x2a 0x00 0x0d 0x9e ???
 06970     02/13/2017 14:34:55   0x26 0x65 0x00 0x28 0x00 0x0d 0x9e ???
 06971     02/13/2017 14:35:11   0x26 0x64 0x00 0x24 0x00 0x00 0x00 ???
 06972     02/13/2017 14:35:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 33C, l 33C, PackSOC: 61%, Vpack:102.437V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  99C, CtrlTemp:  36C, AmbTemp:  22C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 5920km
 06973     02/13/2017 14:35:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    394 A (75%), MinCell: 3647mV, MaxPackTemp: 33C
 06974     02/13/2017 14:35:55   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x00, Sevcon Error Code: 0x4603, Data: 00 00 00, Unknown
 06975     02/13/2017 14:36:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 34C, l 34C, PackSOC: 59%, Vpack:101.429V, MotAmps:  24, BattAmps:  31, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  93C, CtrlTemp:  39C, AmbTemp:  22C, MotRPM:4033, Odo: 5920km
 06976     02/13/2017 14:36:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    433 A (83%), MinCell: 3605mV, MaxPackTemp: 34C
 06977     02/13/2017 14:37:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 34C, l 34C, PackSOC: 59%, Vpack:102.702V, MotAmps:  75, BattAmps:  27, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  78C, CtrlTemp:  33C, AmbTemp:  22C, MotRPM:1154, Odo: 5921km
 06978     02/13/2017 14:37:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    486 A (93%), MinCell: 3659mV, MaxPackTemp: 34C
 06979     02/13/2017 14:38:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 34C, l 34C, PackSOC: 59%, Vpack:103.634V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  72C, CtrlTemp:  31C, AmbTemp:  23C, MotRPM:  31, Odo: 5921km
 06980     02/13/2017 14:38:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    506 A (97%), MinCell: 3694mV, MaxPackTemp: 34C
 06981     02/13/2017 14:39:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 34C, l 34C, PackSOC: 59%, Vpack:102.089V, MotAmps:  62, BattAmps:  56, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  66C, CtrlTemp:  31C, AmbTemp:  23C, MotRPM:2991, Odo: 5921km
 06982     02/13/2017 14:39:12   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    508 A (97%), MinCell: 3643mV, MaxPackTemp: 34C
 06983     02/13/2017 14:40:12   Riding                     PackTemp: h 34C, l 34C, PackSOC: 57%, Vpack:101.003V, MotAmps:  38, BattAmps:  48, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  67C, CtrlTemp:  32C, AmbTemp:  23C, MotRPM:3843, Odo: 5923km
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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2017, 08:29:36 AM »

You already contacted your dealer and zero about this, right?


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Re: Sudden deceleration at full throttle?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2017, 02:24:28 PM »

I asked Zero about this issue and got a reply via the dealer, as Zero don't seem to like replying to customers.

Apparently it's definitely not a known issue with the 2016 FXS (and not why they bumped up the controller spec on the 2017s). If it happens on your FXS they will fix it under warranty. Does this just mean dialing back the power a bit? Who knows.
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