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[zerovolt]

No tech. question, but anyone knows plastic charge tank ' price ?

[Chicamungo]

EC,

So a couple of times after the quick charging, my dash has the alert flash. It's 3 quick flashes, small pause, 3 quick flashes.

Have you seen anything like this? I pulled the logs from my bike but didn't see anything in there indicating an error. There doesn't seem to be any difference while riding though so I've just been ignoring it for now. I checked the manual and don't see that pattern match up with anything.

[giacomo]

No tech. question, but anyone knows plastic charge tank ' price ?

I have been just quoted $300, for s, SR '15

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

[Erasmo]

EC,

So a couple of times after the quick charging, my dash has the alert flash. It's 3 quick flashes, small pause, 3 quick flashes.

Have you seen anything like this? I pulled the logs from my bike but didn't see anything in there indicating an error. There doesn't seem to be any difference while riding though so I've just been ignoring it for now. I checked the manual and don't see that pattern match up with anything.

Pull the logs.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

I've started updating the wiki's entries for DigiNow, both Supercharger and OBD-II plug: http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#DigiNow_Super_Charger

[Chicamungo]

EC,

So a couple of times after the quick charging, my dash has the alert flash. It's 3 quick flashes, small pause, 3 quick flashes.

Have you seen anything like this? I pulled the logs from my bike but didn't see anything in there indicating an error. There doesn't seem to be any difference while riding though so I've just been ignoring it for now. I checked the manual and don't see that pattern match up with anything.

Pull the logs.

Here's the relevant info from the Bike Logs.
 04111     01/14/2017 19:04:48   Charging                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 29C, AmbTemp: 35C, PackSOC: 84%, Vpack:114.664V, BattAmps: -36, Mods: 01, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 04112     01/14/2017 19:06:50   Calex 1200W Charger 1 Disconnected
 04113     01/14/2017 19:06:50   INFO:  Disabling Charger 1
 04114     01/14/2017 19:07:29   Power Off                  Unknown
 04115     01/14/2017 19:07:29   Sevcon Turned Off
 04116     01/14/2017 19:07:29   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod: 114.587V, batt curr:   0A
 04117     01/14/2017 19:07:29   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04118     01/14/2017 19:07:29   INFO:  Disabling Charger 2
 04119     01/14/2017 19:07:29   INFO:  Disabling Charger 3
 04120                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External
 04121                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 04122                       0   Key On
 04123                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode
 04124                       0   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04125                       0   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04126                       0   Disabling CIB for non-timeout reason
 04127                       0   Module 00 CAN Link Up
 04128                       0   Module 00 Registered       serial: 14qd1200,  vmod: 114.473V
 04129     01/14/2017 19:07:36   Sevcon Turned On
 04130     01/14/2017 19:07:36   Sevcon CAN Link Up
 04131     01/14/2017 19:07:37   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.
 04132     01/14/2017 19:07:37   Module 00 Closing Contactor  vmod: 114.435V, maxsys: 114.409V, minsys: 114.409V, diff: 0.000V, vcap: 105.750V, prechg: 92%
 04133     01/14/2017 19:07:37   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed
 04134     01/14/2017 19:07:37   INFO:  Enabling Charger 2
 04135     01/14/2017 19:07:37   INFO:  Enabling Charger 3
 04136     01/14/2017 19:07:38   CIB timeout: 5010 ms
 04137     01/14/2017 19:07:44   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 29C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:114.363V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 01, MotTemp:  28C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  34C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7864km
 04138     01/14/2017 19:08:22   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 04139     01/14/2017 19:08:22   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04140     01/14/2017 19:08:44   Riding                     PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:114.012V, MotAmps: 115, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 10, MotTemp:  30C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  25C, MotRPM:  16, Odo: 7864km
 04141     01/14/2017 19:09:44   Riding                     PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.126V, MotAmps: 151, BattAmps:  50, Mods: 10, MotTemp:  34C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  20C, MotRPM:1340, Odo: 7864km
 04142     01/14/2017 19:10:15   Power Off                  Key Switch
 04143     01/14/2017 19:10:15   Sevcon Turned Off
 04144     01/14/2017 19:10:15   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod: 113.813V, batt curr:   0A
 04145     01/14/2017 19:10:15   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04146     01/14/2017 19:10:15   INFO:  Disabling Charger 2
 04147     01/14/2017 19:10:15   INFO:  Disabling Charger 3
 04148     01/14/2017 19:10:16   CPU Soft Reset:            Power Down Interrupted by Key On
 04149                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Software
 04150                       0   Board Reset                Software
 04151                       0   Key On
 04152                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode
 04153                       0   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04154                       0   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04155                       0   Disabling CIB for non-timeout reason
 04156                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 04157                       0   Module 00 CAN Link Up
 04158                       0   Module 00 Registered       serial: 14qd1200,  vmod: 113.842V
 04159     01/14/2017 19:10:19   Sevcon Turned On
 04160     01/14/2017 19:10:20   CAN1 BIT0 error. count=1
 04161     01/14/2017 19:10:20   Sevcon CAN Link Up
 04162     01/14/2017 19:10:21   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.
 04163     01/14/2017 19:10:21   Module 00 Closing Contactor  vmod: 113.832V, maxsys: 113.824V, minsys: 113.824V, diff: 0.000V, vcap: 105.312V, prechg: 92%
 04164     01/14/2017 19:10:21   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed
 04165     01/14/2017 19:10:21   INFO:  Enabling Charger 2
 04166     01/14/2017 19:10:21   INFO:  Enabling Charger 3
 04167     01/14/2017 19:10:22   CIB timeout: 5009 ms
 04168     01/14/2017 19:10:28   Riding                     PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.712V, MotAmps:  64, BattAmps:   7, Mods: 10, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM: 503, Odo: 7864km
 04169     01/14/2017 19:11:26   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 04170     01/14/2017 19:11:26   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04171     01/14/2017 19:11:28   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.751V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 01, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7864km
 04172     01/14/2017 19:11:29   Power Off                  Key Switch
 04173     01/14/2017 19:11:29   Sevcon Turned Off
 04174     01/14/2017 19:11:29   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod: 113.754V, batt curr:   0A
 04175     01/14/2017 19:11:29   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04176     01/14/2017 19:11:29   INFO:  Disabling Charger 2
 04177     01/14/2017 19:11:29   INFO:  Disabling Charger 3
 04178                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External
 04179                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 04180                       0   Key On
 04181                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode
 04182                       0   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04183                       0   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 04184                       0   Disabling CIB for non-timeout reason
 04185                       0   Module 00 CAN Link Up
 04186                       0   Module 00 Registered       serial: 14qd1200,  vmod: 113.782V
 04187     01/14/2017 19:11:36   Sevcon Turned On
 04188     01/14/2017 19:11:37   CAN1 BIT0 error. count=1
 04189     01/14/2017 19:11:37   Sevcon CAN Link Up
 04190     01/14/2017 19:11:37   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.
 04191     01/14/2017 19:11:38   Module 00 Closing Contactor  vmod: 113.777V, maxsys: 113.771V, minsys: 113.771V, diff: 0.000V, vcap: 105.062V, prechg: 92%
 04192     01/14/2017 19:11:38   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed
 04193     01/14/2017 19:11:38   INFO:  Enabling Charger 2
 04194     01/14/2017 19:11:38   INFO:  Enabling Charger 3
 04195     01/14/2017 19:11:39   CIB timeout: 5005 ms
 04196     01/14/2017 19:11:45   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.783V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 01, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7864km
 04197     01/14/2017 19:12:45   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.789V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 01, MotTemp:  34C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  21C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7864km
 04198     01/14/2017 19:12:56   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 04199     01/14/2017 19:12:56   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04200     01/14/2017 19:13:45   Riding                     PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.663V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 10, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7865km
 04201     01/14/2017 19:13:46   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 04202     01/14/2017 19:13:46   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04203     01/14/2017 19:13:48   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 04204     01/14/2017 19:13:48   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04205     01/14/2017 19:14:39   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 04206     01/14/2017 19:14:39   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04207     01/14/2017 19:14:45   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.646V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 01, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7865km
 04208     01/14/2017 19:15:45   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.654V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 01, MotTemp:  34C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7865km
 04209     01/14/2017 19:16:42   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 04210     01/14/2017 19:16:42   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 04211     01/14/2017 19:16:45   Riding                     PackTemp: h 31C, l 30C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:113.647V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 10, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  20C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 7865km
 04212     01/14/2017 19:17:04   Power Off                  Key Switch

So the last bit of my charging, to starting to ride for a bit, noticing the flashing and then then turning the bike on and off a bit to see if that would clear it. I don't see any errors.

I've attached the bike log too. This was from January 14th, around 6:30pm to 8pm.

I could pull the bike and battery logs too later today if you think that would be helpful.

[Erasmo]

I can't see that much either but I don't excel at reading logs. Anyway there is now some more information to work from.

[anton]

I tried charging with my SC v2 yesterday too. Didn't assemble it in charge tank yet, just a bunch of cords and boxes sitting on the ground for now. Had a couple of issues too

One issue was that I never seem to go past 1.3 kW charging rate. It seems like only onboard charger was engaged (stats in Zero app were jumping from 800W to ~1.3 kW, which is expected from Calex). I've tried charging without engaging onboard (while the bike was ON) and interestingly enough, stats in Zero app never showed charge rate, although dashboard displayed charge ETA to be even slower than when using Calex.

Once in a while I would get flashing red charge light (rapid blinking, would stay blinking even after keying bike OFF for a few seconds, but eventually goes away) and for some reason my ABS light would stay on after charging session. Keying bike off and on seems to have fixed ABS light.

During both sessions I would see some lights in controller box but no lights on charger itself would light up. Fan would stay off too (however it's probably temperature-controlled so that's not really an issue) and charger would get slightly warm.

When tested with ChargePoint and onboard disengaged, the light on SC would cycle between red and green. Didn't see that from ClipperCreek station.

I tried 2 ClipperCreek and Chargepoint stations with the same results. Not sure what to try next though.

Logs: http://pastebin.com/mHdd3qX7

[nevetsyad]

Are you sure everything is hooked up right? I set mine up externally also and got 4.6+ kW from a Boch and Juicebox, no problems.

[anton]

Are you sure everything is hooked up right? I set mine up externally also and got 4.6+ kW from a Boch and Juicebox, no problems.

The way connectors are made and marked makes it impossible to connect in the wrong way. Here's potato quality picture:



What's your opinion on using it externally? I find it's rather too heavy for top case and takes quite some space.

[nevetsyad]

I think it's a bit fragile to keep external and loose. Once I get my new bike, I'm going to get the proper plastics and install it. I have side cases, so I don't know how to store it without damaging it, it seems like a top case would be better for that, lay it flat and strap it down.

Okay, dumb question, but, is the aux connector all the way in? I thought I had it in once or twice and it wasn't fully snapped in. Also, do you have  a multimeter? You may be able to check the voltage coming out and going in to the charger to see if the circuit is broken somewhere.

[nevetsyad]

Oh, I'm use to an Elcon, so this doesn't seem heavy to me.

What was your SOC when you tried charging? If it was in the 90% + it may not have needed more than the onboard.

[anton]

Oh, I'm use to an Elcon, so this doesn't seem heavy to me.

What was your SOC when you tried charging? If it was in the 90% + it may not have needed more than the onboard.

Are you carrying Elcon(s) in side cases or top case?

Re SOC, I was at ~50% and I waited a couple of minutes to see if 3.3 kW is going to kick in eventually but it doesn't seem like it did. I'm going to double-check the cord that goes into AUX charger port in Zero if I locked those connector properly just in case and try again.

When you plug Elcon in, do you see correct power readouts in Zero app? For some reason it kept showing "0:00" as estimated time even though bike dashboard seemed to estimate charging time correctly.

Want to add one more thing to my previous message: when engaging both on-board and 3.3 unit, I'd see charging power numbers in the app; however when engaging just 3.3 unit, I would see "N/A" in those readouts.

[Erasmo]

What's your opinion on using it externally? I find it's rather too heavy for top case and takes quite some space.

Don't. Install it in the tank area if you don't have a Power Tank, otherwise mount it in a reinforced top case or something like a Pelican case.

[anton]

What's your opinion on using it externally? I find it's rather too heavy for top case and takes quite some space.

Don't. Install it in the tank area if you don't have a Power Tank, otherwise mount it in a reinforced top case or something like a Pelican case.

Any recommendation on what "reinforced case" is? I was hoping that 6.6 unit will fit into tank area but now that I've seen the size 3.3 unit, I'm not 100% sure (although there might be a way depending on how cooling system is implemented for 6.6 I suppose).