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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #135 on: April 26, 2017, 12:05:44 PM »

togo was diligent enough to get a console copy of all the MBB console commands, so I cleaned them up and hyperlinked them to various parts of the wiki that explain concepts:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/MBB_Console
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #136 on: June 05, 2017, 03:08:44 AM »

I am trying to make an offline version of the manual that one can load onto a phone/tablet/laptop/etc. but am having trouble getting everything working in harmony.

I'm having the closest experience to success on this stack (after too many "yak-shaving" experiences) but it really doesn't work without the visualeditor plugin:
https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner

I do need to update the UI, I just forgot about updating it. New kid, new job, etc... makes it easy to forget about things like that. 
I think I started to look at what my options were, but there was some kind of conflict between what I wanted and the version of something I had.. I'll try to look at it soon.

I hope we can clear this hurdle soon, because it seems to unlock a bunch of benefits at once. Honestly, I assume that for some cloud/virtualized hosting services, there's a software image that has this all set up, as long as one is willing to put up with some particular Linux distro.

If that doesn't work, what might?
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #137 on: July 25, 2017, 03:34:58 AM »


Here's a belated overview of the last month's changes:

I've updated the onboard charger section with some operational guidance:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Charger
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Charger_Operation

The "lift" section got some Pit Bull stand specifications finally:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Lift

The BMS has a photo guide:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Battery_Management_System
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#BMS_Parts
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#BMS_Architecture

The Battery area is re-organized with sections for the monolith, brick, and long brick:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Cell_Arrangement

Relatedly, I assembled a Precharge Theory page based on Doug S's interesting explanations and my observations and study:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Precharge_Theory

I took some cropped stock images from Zero's website to help illustrate the frame. I think this is okay, and unfortunately not enough photos exist of the frame for a clear depiction but hopefully we can acquire some to avoid this grey-area usage. At least the images link to the parts of Zero's website where I found them:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Frame

The DC-DC converter has a little troubleshooting guide:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#DC.2FDC_12V_converter

I found that there's a hint of a chain kit in some 2017 parts catalogs(!). Some interested owner should inquire about this:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Chain_Kit

The recalls page now sticks with NHTSA pages:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Recalls

I clarified the contribution policy after discussing some motivations and copyright issues:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Contribution_Policy

Off-bike charging for FX/FXS bikes is now fairly detailed:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Advanced_Modifications#Charging_Off_Bike
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2017, 08:56:51 AM »

Brian,

I wanted to say Thanks for your unofficial manual.
It's amazing how many have made contributions.

I've scanned over the manual many times and now have a better understanding of the ins and outs of the bike.

I have benefited numerous times.
Just recently, I acquired several items:
[1] Grip Lock - It works well for me.
[2] Pit-Bull Trailer Restraint System - Zero Motorcycles (Axle: 23-04736)
It's just right. It was a quick install. All of my trailering worries have been put to rest.
I decided to give it a go because I recently had my forks repaired as a seal was leaking. I wondered if I had caused the problem by having the straps too tight while the bike was strapped to the trailer.

Without the manual, I would never have known about those two useful items and much more.

Thanks again....
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #139 on: August 13, 2017, 05:49:06 AM »

I wanted to say Thanks for your unofficial manual.
It's amazing how many have made contributions.

I've scanned over the manual many times and now have a better understanding of the ins and outs of the bike.

I have benefited numerous times.
Just recently, I acquired several items:
[1] Grip Lock - It works well for me.
[2] Pit-Bull Trailer Restraint System - Zero Motorcycles (Axle: 23-04736)
It's just right. It was a quick install. All of my trailering worries have been put to rest.
I decided to give it a go because I recently had my forks repaired as a seal was leaking. I wondered if I had caused the problem by having the straps too tight while the bike was strapped to the trailer.

Without the manual, I would never have known about those two useful items and much more.

Thanks again....

I'm so glad it's helpful!

I spend a lot of time fussing over certain areas trying to strike a balance where it's useful but doesn't get owners into trouble.

I'm not very strong when it comes to motorcycle suspension and would love more words of wisdom from someone experienced with them. More contributors to the manual are welcome; there's plenty to do, and maybe I'll try to better highlight what threads here are still queued for incorporation or what information we've been looking for so the curious know where they could help.
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #140 on: August 25, 2017, 03:19:37 AM »

This is your regular reminder that this manual is still maintained mainly by my efforts, and that my queue for incorporating others' input is massively deep at this point.

PLEASE, if it ever occurs to you that the manual is wrong or out of date, FIRST make an account on the wiki and add your information in a callout on the page or use a "Talk" page. I can read the changelog and go respond to that much more easily than trying to make new content from scratch by reading forum or Facebook posts.

The manual is basically an unpaid part-time job in the current situation, and I'd rather it be a group effort. Thank you.
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #141 on: August 25, 2017, 04:30:59 AM »

This is your regular reminder that this manual is still maintained mainly by my efforts, and that my queue for incorporating others' input is massively deep at this point.

PLEASE, if it ever occurs to you that the manual is wrong or out of date, FIRST make an account on the wiki and add your information in a callout on the page or use a "Talk" page. I can read the changelog and go respond to that much more easily than trying to make new content from scratch by reading forum or Facebook posts.

The manual is basically an unpaid part-time job in the current situation, and I'd rather it be a group effort. Thank you.
Amen! Add/edit the manual yourselves. It's fun and easy! I've done it and you can too!

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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #142 on: August 26, 2017, 10:20:27 PM »

Yes, it's fun and easy. Why wait for others when you can do it yourself?
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2017, 08:00:00 PM »

Hi Brian -

I tried out downloading the manual using HTTrack Website Copier. I used the Windows version in GUI mode. There is command line mode and there is Linux/Mac version.

It took over 3 hours to download the 300 MB site. Log summary line below.

HTTrack Website Copier/3.48-21 mirror complete in 3 hours 24 minutes 13 seconds : 2703 links scanned, 2389 files written (296627796 bytes overall), 2389 files updated [303084543 bytes received at 24735 bytes/sec], 4.1 requests per connection
(304 errors, 868 warnings, 0 messages)


While it mentions errors, I didn't notice any issues other than the styling. The results looked just fine to me without the styling. I used all default settings except for Browser ID. With the default Browser ID I was immediately getting a 403. I changed it to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/60.0.3112.101 Safari/537.36" and it worked.

This first line from the logs shows the options that were used.

HTTrack3.48-21+htsswf+htsjava launched on Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:36:31 at http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Main_Page +*.png +*.gif +*.jpg +*.jpeg +*.css +*.js -ad.doubleclick.net/* -mime:application/foobar
(winhttrack -qiC2%Ps2u1%s%uN0%I0p3DaK0H0%kf2A25000%f#f -F " Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/60.0.3112.101 Safari/537.36" -%F "<!-- Mirrored from %s%s by HTTrack Website Copier/3.x [XR&CO'2014], %s -->" -%l "en, *" http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Main_Page -O1 "C:\My Web Sites\Zero_Unofficial_Manual" +*.png +*.gif +*.jpg +*.jpeg +*.css +*.js -ad.doubleclick.net/* -mime:application/foobar )


To test the results I disabled my network adapter and opened the following file in Chrome:
file:///C:/My%20Web%20Sites/Zero_Unofficial_Manual/zeromanual.com/index.php/Main_Page.html
Then clicked around at the links and made sure the images all appeared, which they did.

Again, only issue was there was no styling. You could add a post-processing step to fix that but I don't think it is worth the effort as it looked fine without the styling. But it might be worth adding a post-processing step to strip out the link rel="stylesheet" lines as they just timeout in the background.

-Jerome

I am trying to make an offline version of the manual that one can load onto a phone/tablet/laptop/etc. but am having trouble getting everything working in harmony.

I'm having the closest experience to success on this stack (after too many "yak-shaving" experiences) but it really doesn't work without the visualeditor plugin:
https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner

I do need to update the UI, I just forgot about updating it. New kid, new job, etc... makes it easy to forget about things like that. 
I think I started to look at what my options were, but there was some kind of conflict between what I wanted and the version of something I had.. I'll try to look at it soon.

I hope we can clear this hurdle soon, because it seems to unlock a bunch of benefits at once. Honestly, I assume that for some cloud/virtualized hosting services, there's a software image that has this all set up, as long as one is willing to put up with some particular Linux distro.

If that doesn't work, what might?
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #144 on: August 28, 2017, 10:31:26 PM »

As much as possible, let's try to read it from the website rather than with offline copying tools.

It's good to be referring to sources with the latest changes.

I'd certainly support a mobile-friendly front end, tho.  Maybe someone could make a caching-friendly gateway.
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #145 on: August 29, 2017, 08:49:21 AM »

Offline support is desirable, but someone needs to upgrade the server software to support that properly.

Spidering the content is achievable but the photos are too much of the download content, so you'd have to tweak the spider a lot to get a reasonable result.

I've tried, in a few different ways.
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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #146 on: September 28, 2017, 10:02:00 PM »

Im happy to announce that as of 5 min ago, the zero manual now uses SSL.

You may want to update your links from http to https, however if you dont change anything it will redirect you automatically.

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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #147 on: September 28, 2017, 11:45:49 PM »

Im happy to announce that as of 5 min ago, the zero manual now uses SSL.

You may want to update your links from http to https, however if you dont change anything it will redirect you automatically.

Thank you! I had kept putting off a notice recommending using throwaway passwords.

Chrome still gives a bit of a notice, so I ran a test via Qualys' web service which indicates that it's mostly fine, and probably with a couple of tweaks would be perfect:
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=zeromanual.com&latest
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« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2017, 02:52:48 AM »

Thanks, Mr. Dude!  That's a great improvement.  And I see the SSL Server Test gives your encryption an A!

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Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual
« Reply #149 on: July 25, 2022, 02:04:55 AM »

Hey folks, does MrDude_1 still maintain this wiki? Says he hasn't been online here since 2019.  Or anyone else here? I found this topic linked from the wiki, not sure who / how else to contact.  I went to register on the wiki today, and received this error:
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You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested.

From this link on the main page:
http://zeromanual.com/wiki/Special:UserLogin?type=signup&returnto=Main_Page
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