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Author Topic: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM  (Read 5164 times)

Kocho

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Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« on: May 15, 2016, 08:24:35 AM »

The rear brakes on my '15 SR are terribly noisy. I'm fairly certain it is the material of the pads that's the culprit. Looking at the EBC catalogue, it seems the rear pads for '15 SR are FA213 (organic), FA213V (semi sintered), and FA213HH (sintered):

http://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/ecatalogues/2016_USA_Motorcycle_Catalogue/USA_Motorcycle_Catalogue_2016.html#p=30

I decided to give the organic FA213 pads a try, because organic pads are supposed to be the quietest and most gentle on the rotors (don't last as long and don't "bite" as strong as sintered, but have better "feel" supposedly):


http://smile.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-FA213-Disc-Brake/dp/B006BVHD4I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1463278781&sr=8-2&keywords=ebc+brake+pads+fa213

Amazon says they do not fit the Zero, but I trust the EBC catalogue to be correct. Hope they fit and work better than stock. Will let you know how they turn out once I get them in a week or two and install them. For under $25 delivered, I think they are worth a try.

Feel free to reply with similar information, including parts numbers and sourcing, if you have other alternatives.

EDIT: photo attached of the retail package with the EBC FA213 pads that I received. I still have not installed them, so I can't confirm fit and performance yet. You can't tell from the attached photo, but they seem to have some copper-looking bits in them (that look silver-ish on the photo). No metal shims are included with these pads (and there are none on the bike either in the rear, only in the front).
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 06:12:05 PM by Kocho »
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 09:35:46 AM »

thanks for starting this thread! we'll figure it out

I think these would work for the JJuan front brakes

http://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-FA209-Disc-Brake/dp/B00666KCU0/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1463282704&sr=1-2&keywords=EBC+FA+209%2F2

Looks like people use them on their BMW 650 GS.
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2016, 02:24:41 AM »

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I trust the EBC catalogue to be correct
Normally I'd agree, but it shows my '14 FX as using FA208 rear pads, which don't fit at all (correct pads are FA131, below).



FA208:



Performance Cycle has a number of pad outline diagrams.

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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2016, 02:40:15 AM »

Hmmm. 208 and 213 seem identical in dimensions and shape on the diagrams from your link... I guess I'll find out soon enough if I the catalogue is right for my SR.
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 03:06:43 AM »

The catalog's probably correct for your SR - it shows the right front pads for my bike (FA185).  Some companies do appear to make identical pads with different numbers, but I've found there usually ends up being some kind of difference between them (friction material thickness / slotting / chamfering, backing-plate thickness / material / coating, etc.).

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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 04:20:40 AM »

I am also glad you started this thread.  I am looking forward to hearing other rider experiences.  My '15 SR stops fine but is noisy.  Oftentimes I have to tap the rear brake to stop it from sounding like a worn out shopping buggy.  I just got some cheap Chinese pads for my R1 and will be installing them soon, for practice as much as anything. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2016, 06:15:21 PM »

Yes, they should. If I like how the rear EBC pads work, I might swap the fronts too. But my front brakes are almost quiet enough to be OK, only the rear are really loud on mine - sound almost like an old dump truck, not just gentle squeak. And they just feel rough and scratch, not smooth when I use them... I'll have an update for the rear brakes as soon as I get my bike back from the shop - they are fixing some unrelated issue that might take a while (or might be done tomorrow - never know)...

thanks for starting this thread! we'll figure it out

I think these would work for the JJuan front brakes

http://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-FA209-Disc-Brake/dp/B00666KCU0/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1463282704&sr=1-2&keywords=EBC+FA+209%2F2

Looks like people use them on their BMW 650 GS.
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 09:03:33 AM »

The FA209/2 doesn't fit. Too big. I should have done basic measurements of my current pads before ordering. Also not the right shape.

I also stupidly opened the package before I knew if they were going to work or not. i ordered on Amazon, hoping they'll take it back.
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 09:38:44 AM »

So the EBC catalogue is wrong for the front FA209/2 too? What year and model is your Zero? My bike is still in the shop, so I don't know if the rears that I got will fit or not...

The FA209/2 doesn't fit. Too big. I should have done basic measurements of my current pads before ordering. Also not the right shape.

I also stupidly opened the package before I knew if they were going to work or not. i ordered on Amazon, hoping they'll take it back.
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 10:18:55 AM »

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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 06:54:05 PM »

Amazon is usually pretty good about returns.  I've sent back maybe 10 or so items over the years, no problems at all.  They have the procedure online, labels to print, etc.

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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 07:04:48 PM »

The FX has a smaller disk in the front compared to the rest of the line for '16 (and '15). I doubt it is using the same pads as them even if it is ising the same JUan caliper. Maybe EBC missed that subtelty in their catalogue and the part number is still good for tje rest of the line, other than the FX?

I think the return should be fine, if it is a mistake in the catalogue. Or if they indeed fit other models, maybe one of us who are unhappy with their front brakes can buy them from you if they give you problems?
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 12:08:44 AM »

This looks more like it, just need to take my front pads out and measure...

http://www.performancecycle.com/ebc-fa181x-brake-pads/
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 04:51:29 AM »

I just replaced med break pads on my SR 2014. I am not sure if the 2015/2016 ABS breaks uses jeg same break pads.

I ordered them online from a local danish dealer I have used before, when I was driving Honda.

Front: http://www.mcbutikken.dk/search/mcb574/in/all/article/134425 - Lucas SBB, standard ALTN 7370711
Rear: http://www.mcbutikken.dk/category/10827060300/search/mcb+672/in/all/article/355601 - BRAKE PADS STD TRW ALTN 7377542/7630066

The online dealer will ship to all of EU.

Both was just the same size as the original.
My frist original set break pad lasted 10000km. I can report back next time i change how long this set will last.
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Re: Brake Pads Alternatives to OEM
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2016, 10:29:07 PM »

I just replaced med break pads on my SR 2014. I am not sure if the 2015/2016 ABS breaks uses jeg same break pads.

For anyone wondering: they do not.
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