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stevenh

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What Custom Settings are folks using?
« on: April 03, 2016, 11:47:54 PM »

I was wondering what folks might be using for Custom settings?  I have my torque dialed back a bit to 80% and 100% regen on both normal and breaking.  Has anyone had issue with 100% regen causing a loss of traction when decelerating in wet conditions?

Man I love riding this thing (DSR purchased last month).

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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 02:36:38 AM »

My custom setting is the factory default custom setting. It seems perfect to me as is so I have never felt the need to change it. I have full acceleration and enough regen to feel like compression so I've been a happy camper since day one.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2016, 03:42:32 AM »

I have tried everything over the past two years and I have decided that 100% power and 0% regen when the throttle is closed and 100% regen when the brake lever is activated.  That is the best combination for me in all the types of riding that I do.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2016, 04:05:11 AM »

I have tried everything over the past two years and I have decided that 100% power and 0% regen is the best combination for me in all the types of riding that I do.

I second this ... but add a variable regen clutch in the mix :D
There have been times when it seemed like I coasted for a mile on relatively flat land 0_0
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What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2016, 06:04:24 AM »

I usually go 75% acceleration and 100% regent on my SR.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2016, 01:15:41 PM »

My custom, still tuning, 100% regen/braking and I dialed down the top speed seems to tighten up the throttle.  I like it for the dirt roads I hit.  I generally don't want to be going that fast.

I have used my custom mode in the rain and through mud.  On mud and loose ground I could see the wheel skipping a bit.  On paved road no issue, though I suspect the 100% regen is going to be tough on that belt and is why it's so solid for wheel contact.

Congrats DSR here too!  It is pretty awesome!



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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 03:50:47 AM »

I have everything maxed out. I like the full regen, it feels like proper engine braking. Also saves me using the brakes so much. Traction isn't a problem as it's only a fraction of the torque you get when accelerating.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2016, 09:34:05 AM »

   75% torque, 6% regen. The bike's next owner can rest assured that I, at least never rode it at 100% torque.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2016, 02:28:29 AM »

If I could put it to 250% torque, I would. 
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2016, 07:05:12 AM »

At the moment, it's set to 80% torque, 80% regen and 80mph top speed. I think I'm going to up the regen to 100% but leave the rest where they are.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2016, 04:03:14 PM »

   You guys do understand that the most efficient way to ride is by coasting when possible, right? Regenerative braking wastes at least 50% of the energy available as waste heat. Coasting with little or no regen is best for all but stop and go or 'stop and slow' riding. If you are adding all that regen to make use of the brake less necessary, that I understand. If you are trying for range, I suggest you try 0%-10% throttle regen.
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2016, 06:23:15 PM »

   You guys do understand that the most efficient way to ride is by coasting when possible, right? Regenerative braking wastes at least 50% of the energy available as waste heat. Coasting with little or no regen is best for all but stop and go or 'stop and slow' riding. If you are adding all that regen to make use of the brake less necessary, that I understand. If you are trying for range, I suggest you try 0%-10% throttle regen.

What if we just want to go fast and do wheelies?
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 08:01:59 PM »

What I didn't like about having regen when I was off-throttle and not braking was that I would typically have to turn the throttle back on and off to maintain an even speed while coasting down a modest grade.  Just having the normal off-power drag was enough retardation for the terrain where I ride.  However, if I rode (heaven forbid) in a city like San Francisco with a lot of steep hills, 100% regen on closed throttle would likely work out the best.  In my experience, you should try different combinations of custom settings to discover what works best for you in your type of riding.   :)  No one setting works for everyone and it is always fun to experiment.  ;)
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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2016, 12:12:47 AM »

I think it would be a really cool firmware upgrade to allow a mode where backing off the throttle increases the regen from 0 to 100%.  I have read that other electrics use this approach.  It allows you to coast when you want by keeping a neutral throttle and also lets you "break" by just backing further off the throttle.  Seems logical to me.  I'm not sure why Zero has not taken this approach.

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Re: What Custom Settings are folks using?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2016, 03:44:05 AM »

I think it would be a really cool firmware upgrade to allow a mode where backing off the throttle increases the regen from 0 to 100%.  I have read that other electrics use this approach.  It allows you to coast when you want by keeping a neutral throttle and also lets you "break" by just backing further off the throttle.  Seems logical to me.  I'm not sure why Zero has not taken this approach.

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That is the system that Vectrix developed and used on their scooters, I suspect that they probably have a patent on the design.
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