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Details on the EVA!
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:06:43 PM »

Energica has finally posted the details on the Eva on their web site. http://www.energicasuperbike.com/

A few of the notables:
Max Speed: 124 MPH
Max Range 124 miles
Torque: 125 ft lbs
Motor 70 Kw
Battery 11.7 KwH
4 Riding modes
4 Regen Modes
Reverse
Brembo brakes
3 Kw internal charger
DCFC
 
No mention of price. Compared to the Ego it seems this is a bit detuned, probably to help extend the range. Now if Energica will just get a dealer on the east coast.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 12:41:22 AM »

I heard that prices start at 25K Euro
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 10:09:23 PM »

The production model of the EVA has just been shown at the EICMA show.  Looks nice and the specs are great, but what will the showroom price be?:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2015/11/30/motorcycle-news/energica-unveils-final-version-of-eva-electric-streetfighter/?
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2015, 03:25:39 AM »

Price is €25.000 (Euro) before tax
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2015, 04:58:36 AM »

Price is €25.000 (Euro) before tax

A bit out of my financial comfort range.  You could buy a nice auto in the U.S. for that price.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2015, 08:54:30 AM »

The Ego only cost $34,000 U.S. and the Eva is a cheaper bike right?  I'd guess 24k-28k U.S.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2015, 04:09:12 PM »

25,000 EURO is $26,700 USD. It is definitely pricy but there are also a lot of features here that you are not getting on a Zero SR. The Eva is really the first electric motorcycle you can buy that you can have built in L2 charging and DCFC. I am really looking forward to reading some ride reports when this becomes available.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2015, 03:58:22 AM »

25,000 EURO is $26,700 USD. It is definitely pricy but there are also a lot of features here that you are not getting on a Zero SR. The Eva is really the first electric motorcycle you can buy that you can have built in L2 charging and DCFC. I am really looking forward to reading some ride reports when this becomes available.
But DC fast charging is not included in the base price of 25K Euro...
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2015, 04:34:21 AM »

Still, ~20% more performance than an SR for ~50% higher price isn't bad, considering the diminishing returns on the top of the pyramid. It's a high exotic price point, but not as high as Lightning or the Eco (or Mission was).
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2015, 10:30:40 AM »

Still, ~20% more performance than an SR for ~50% higher price isn't bad, considering the diminishing returns on the top of the pyramid. It's a high exotic price point, but not as high as Lightning or the Eco (or Mission was).
I wonder if it's 20% better performance. They have not given the bike's weight, at least I can't find it anywhere. If it's anything like the Ego it's a 560+ pound porker which is 35% more than an SR. If the Eva is anywhere near that heavy I can't see it being any quicker than a Zero.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2015, 12:58:07 PM »

Still, ~20% more performance than an SR for ~50% higher price isn't bad, considering the diminishing returns on the top of the pyramid. It's a high exotic price point, but not as high as Lightning or the Eco (or Mission was).

Depends on how the range measurements are made (price is easy to convert Euros to Dollars)  but SR's range is measured by the US EPA standards and the EVA by European.  EU (mostly) is measured by a fixed 31 mph whereas the US EPA standard is based on actual start and stop driving.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 01:05:51 PM »

25,000 EURO is $26,700 USD. It is definitely pricy but there are also a lot of features here that you are not getting on a Zero SR. The Eva is really the first electric motorcycle you can buy that you can have built in L2 charging and DCFC. I am really looking forward to reading some ride reports when this becomes available.


A straight exchange rate comparison misses a bit. For one, freight is more expensive to the US; but the US price also does not include VAT.


As a point of comparison:

In Italy, the Ducati Panigale 1299 S costs € 25.990.

http://www.ducati.it/moto/superbike/1299_panigale_s/index.do

In the US, it costs $ 25,495.

http://www.ducatiusa.com/bikes/superbike/1299_panigale_s/index.do


I expect the Eva to sticker just under $25k. Once you've paid taxes and dealer PDI and all that other good stuff, it'll be a fair bit more.
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2016, 07:39:35 PM »

For range, you can expect to get similar miles/kWh as a Zero, so you can probably do the conversion since you know the battery size.


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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2016, 09:34:12 PM »

25,000 EURO is $26,700 USD. It is definitely pricy but there are also a lot of features here that you are not getting on a Zero SR. The Eva is really the first electric motorcycle you can buy that you can have built in L2 charging and DCFC. I am really looking forward to reading some ride reports when this becomes available.


A straight exchange rate comparison misses a bit. For one, freight is more expensive to the US; but the US price also does not include VAT.


As a point of comparison:

In Italy, the Ducati Panigale 1299 S costs € 25.990.

http://www.ducati.it/moto/superbike/1299_panigale_s/index.do

In the US, it costs $ 25,495.

http://www.ducatiusa.com/bikes/superbike/1299_panigale_s/index.do


I expect the Eva to sticker just under $25k. Once you've paid taxes and dealer PDI and all that other good stuff, it'll be a fair bit more.


And if you buy it in California, don't forget to add 9% sales tax and a few hundred dollars for the DMV licensing fees.   :(
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Re: Details on the EVA!
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 12:01:26 AM »

For range, you can expect to get similar miles/kWh as a Zero, so you can probably do the conversion since you know the battery size.

Energica appears to use the same capacity battery pack on both Ego and Eva, 11.7 kWh nominal.

This is slightly larger (+2.6%) than the 11.4 kWh nominal of the 2016 Zero ZF13 bikes.

Energica Ego has 150 km (93 miles) at 80 km/h (50 mph), 100 km (62 miles) at 100 km/h (62 mph).

Zero S ZF13 has 158 km (98 miles) at 89 km/h (55 mph), 130 km (81 miles) at 113 km/h (70 mph).

A bit of interpolation using Wh/mile gives the following ranges:
- 89 km/h: 122 km Energica, 158 km Zero (+30%)
- 100 km/h: 100 km Energica, 144 km Zero (+44%)

Or in imperial units:
- 55 mph: 76 miles Energica, 98 miles Zero
- 62 mph: 62 miles Energica, 89 miles Zero
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