Topic: Anyone experienced with quick removable seat? (Read 6061 times)

Lecram · « **on:** May 05, 2015, 02:13:42 PM »

When the Zero has a power tank, it has no more storage for a lock or so. There is some room under the seat, but it 's not quickly removable. Does someone already made a quick release for the seat to get easily access to the storage room under the seat?

firepower · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2015, 02:33:13 PM »

replace bolts / screws with Sargent Pins.

http://www.sargentcycle.com/Seats-Accessories/Sargent-Fast-Access-Pins/

Installing Sargent Quick-Release Seat Mounts on the SV650 by Bob Thompson

http://web.archive.org/web/20020621213104/http://home.earthlink.net/~nkdsv/sv650_quick_release_seat.PDF

also saved in BOX

https://app.box.com/files/0/f/3442704756/Zero

Lecram · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2015, 02:50:33 PM »

That's what I am looking for, thanks!

Lecram · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2015, 12:54:37 AM »

I found the right latch to make a quick removable seat. It's invisible and if you know how it works, you can remove the seat very easily.

I used this quick latch:

Pulled back the seat cover a bit after removing some staples

Drilled a 20mm hole through bottom plate and foam

Mounted the button:

And the knob:

When you push the button through the cover, the seat will release. I removed the bar that held the seat before

Edwin-SR · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2015, 04:36:10 AM »

Nice solution! Where did you find this (so I can order one too

Lecram · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2015, 05:33:47 AM »

Quote from: Edwin-SR on May 28, 2015, 04:36:10 AM

Nice solution! Where did you find this (so I can order one too

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/bonnet-pins-fasteners/pitking-products-quick-release-clip-push-button-release

trikester · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2015, 09:40:49 AM »

I use thumb screws on mine.

Trikester

togo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2016, 04:19:26 AM »

Quote from: Lecram on May 28, 2015, 05:33:47 AM

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/bonnet-pins-fasteners/pitking-products-quick-release-clip-push-button-release

These seem similar, easier for me to order.

http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0160TOHT4/ref=twister_B01C2NEU4Y

I'm going to try your seat solution myself, and probably use these for mounting windshield and fairing in the future.

Thanks for posting this, Lecram!

Bartimaeus · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2017, 05:45:18 AM »

I bought the quick release that togo posted from Amazon and installed it. Works fine, I tried putting the button under the foam completely so you wouldn't feel it if you were sitting on it but it made it too difficult to find and press the button. The seat does flex if you try pulling on it to make the bike go upright from the side, so I left in the original bracket to keep it from going too far. Once somebody is sitting on the seat the passenger can grab the sides and it won't flex anymore.

Attempt at putting the button under the foam

nigezero · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2017, 04:02:17 PM »

Quote from: Bartimaeus on June 02, 2017, 05:45:18 AM

I bought the quick release that togo posted from Amazon and installed it. Works fine, I tried putting the button under the foam completely so you wouldn't feel it if you were sitting on it but it made it too difficult to find and press the button. The seat does flex if you try pulling on it to make the bike go upright from the side, so I left in the original bracket to keep it from going too far. Once somebody is sitting on the seat the passenger can grab the sides and it won't flex anymore.

Attempt at putting the button under the foam

I simply made (too tight to buy!) two knurled knobs to replace the bolts that hold the seat on. I use them almost daily to add or remove my bags and access my aux fast charger input cable which I located under the seat. Cheap. Simple. Effective. Reliable.

Doug S · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2017, 01:43:58 AM »

So...if we found one of these things:

https://www.fixtureworks.net/store/pc/Quick-Release-Ball-Lock-Pins-c1178.htm

with the correct diameter and length, how would you mechanical guys feel about using them instead of the seat attachment bolts? I'd be a little bit concerned about them rattling off, but maybe it's a non-issue. It seems unlikely that they're going to come out if your body weight is on the shank, holding them firmly in place, but I wonder if they could work their way out somehow.

BrianTRice@gmail.com · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2017, 12:20:55 AM »

Quote from: Doug S on June 03, 2017, 01:43:58 AM

So...if we found one of these things:

https://www.fixtureworks.net/store/pc/Quick-Release-Ball-Lock-Pins-c1178.htm

with the correct diameter and length, how would you mechanical guys feel about using them instead of the seat attachment bolts? I'd be a little bit concerned about them rattling off, but maybe it's a non-issue. It seems unlikely that they're going to come out if your body weight is on the shank, holding them firmly in place, but I wonder if they could work their way out somehow.

I have a bunch of variations on those that I ordered from McMaster:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/123/3381/=17xtuf4

I have the Happy Trails rack installed, which puts more load on the seat bolt fastening that a pin won't handle. I use a ratcheting socket wrench to loosen the bolts part-way now to remove the seat. Which means I rarely remove my seat...

I've considered switching to a quick release pin under the tail, but my Corbin seat is pricier than the stock seat and I'm also concerned about moisture getting into the tail next to the controller, and as a result I've held off on this modification.

Doug S · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2017, 03:35:13 AM »

Quote from: BrianTRice on June 06, 2017, 12:20:55 AM

...which puts more load on the seat bolt fastening that a pin won't handle.

What makes you say that? 316 stainless is VERY tough stuff, much more so than the mild steel bolts that come stock. I realize they're hollow, with a spring/actuator inside, but I'd bet they could handle a LOT of weight if properly sized. Besides, I'd think the rider's body weight would be a far larger load than any rack load would be.

togo · « **Reply #13 on:** June 27, 2017, 03:15:47 AM »

Follow-up:

I ended up installing the lower half of the item I ordered from amazon, and just drilling a hole in bottom of the seat to fit it.

The plastic that makes up the seat captures the pin nicely, and it is flexible enought to stay put except when I yank on it.

I drilled the hole smaller that the knob on the pin, and sure enough, it pops on and off easily, so I never even drilled a hole the whole way through, there's nothing on the top of the seat to get in the way of passenger comfort or alert a passerby of its presence.

If anyone's interested, I can take pictures.

BrianTRice@gmail.com · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2017, 12:29:37 AM »

This has been linked from the wiki for a while, but I added some details:
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Advanced_Modifications#Quick_Seat_Release

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