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oobflyer

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Charging at 4 kW
« on: August 20, 2014, 09:14:10 AM »

I finally have "high-speed" charging for my 2012 S ZF9! Well, not as high-speed as I would like, but it's a vast improvement.

I had originally purchased one Delta-Q Quic Charger to add to the on-board charger, then this year I purchased a couple of used ones (from Terry Hershner). I then ordered a 4-cable "dongle" from Harlan at Hollywood Electrics - which has a J1772 inlet and four 120V C13 connectors.

I rode to a public charging station (Sutter Creek, CA) about 40 miles from home and plugged it in. Interesting to hear the four 'clicks' of the four chargers as they turn on simultaneously.

I charged from two bars to ten bars in 90 minutes. Not bad. Maybe one of these days I'll make it to Alice's Restaurant  ;)

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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 11:20:52 AM »

Congrat!

 ;)

Charging fast is really nice with these bike !

The original ZF9 have 7.9kWh usable energy and it have 12.5 bar ( 1.5 invisible bar too) you can drive a real 120km at 75-80kmh and about 170km at 50km/h average.

I made alot of test with my ZF9!

It now have usable 13kWh 8)   (or... ZF15 equivalent) and 7.6kW of charging power if i combine the 6.6kW compact charger plus the existing 1kW charger.

Doc
 
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 08:21:00 PM »

oobflyer, if you ever come up to Alice's Restaurant, they have a standard 240V outlet on the side of their gas station that faces the restaurant.  Unfortunately, on Sunday mornings an "ambulance chaser" tends to pitch his tent at this location to push his goods to motorcycle riders who walk by on the way to the bathroom.  So if you come on a Sunday morning, bring at least a 25' 240V extension cord, just in case this guy shows up.  Any other day other than a sunny Sunday, you should be able to park right next to the station wall.  If there is room for a lawyer and his tent, there should be room enough for a Zero.   ;)
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 04:18:51 AM »

I'm thinking about riding out that way on a Saturday actually.
Can you use this 240V outlet with a J1772 plug? Or do you have an adapter?
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 04:58:54 AM »

That 240V outlet of theirs has been around since Model T days.  I am pretty sure that you would need an adapter if you wanted to use a charging cord with a J1772 plug to connect to that outlet. Otherwise, you are stuck using the double 120V outlet box located just behind their side yard fence and next to the realty office (in front of which you have to park your bike) to the left of the gas station.  That is where Matt (who has now moved on to MIT) would plug in his both his 2012 S on-board charger and his Zero accessory charger when charging during our Sunday breakfast meetings.
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 10:08:54 PM »

oobflyer,

It may be easier to just buy a male plug for whatever kind of 240 volt plug it is and then buy extension cords with a C13 end on them.
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2014, 01:32:48 AM »

Maybe Arlo should write a new song about plugging in at Alice's Restaurant. He could combine it with his Motorcycle song. ;)

How about: I don't want a pickle I just want a 240 volt plug for my motorcycle?

Trikester

PS: My apologies to Arlo. I couldn't restrain myself.
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 08:27:50 AM »

LOL

I'm planning a ride, tentatively, for one Saturday in September. There are many J1772 charging stations along the way, so I'll plan to charge up before going to the restaurant. I'll take advantage of the 120V outlets to charge a bit while eating, then had back down the hill to another J1772 station on the way back home.
Alice's Restaurant is 107 miles from where I live.  I will probably have to charge 3 times on the way there (about one hour at each stop), and 3 times on the way home - so it will be an all day ride ;-)
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 03:24:17 AM »

Ooberflyer.  Here is the 240V setup at Alice's Restaurant.
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Re: Charging at 4 kW
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 03:27:10 AM »

And here is the location of the outlets on the side of the gas station that faces the Restaurant.  The lawyer didn't show up today or he would have had a table and popup located in front of the 240V plugs.   :)
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