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Title: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: domingo3 on December 13, 2017, 08:58:23 PM
I'm getting more current limiting on my 2016 FXS than I did last winter, and it isn't even cold yet.  Riding home from work yesterday, I could barely maintain 50 mph at 35% SOC.  Ambient temperature was 57 degrees and pack temperature was 66 degrees.  I've read different threads here that confirm lower temperatures and SOC are big factors in this, but I'm trying to get a sense if others experience the same degree of cutbacks.  Could there be a few cells that are going bad my batteries?  Is there anything else that I can do to curb this?  Charging at work isn't an option for me unless I pull out the batteries every day and bring them inside, which would be a total pain.  As a year round rider, I worry that this will make my bike unusable/unsafe for winter commute if it gets worse.  When I chose the FXS over the SR, I had considered the nominal range and speed would be plenty for my needs.  Range is still fine, but the speed limitation is a big concern.


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07596     12/12/2017 04:47:30   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07597     12/12/2017 04:47:55   Riding                     PackTemp: h 18C, l 17C, PackSOC: 42%, Vpack: 94.778V, MotAmps: 167, BattAmps:  99, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  45C, CtrlTemp:  13C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1813, Odo:11627km
 07598     12/12/2017 04:47:55   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    297 A (57%), MinCell: 3378mV, MaxPackTemp: 18C
 07599     12/12/2017 04:48:26   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07600     12/12/2017 04:48:27   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07601     12/12/2017 04:48:55   Riding                     PackTemp: h 18C, l 18C, PackSOC: 42%, Vpack: 99.712V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:  -2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  47C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11628km
 07602     12/12/2017 04:48:55   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    335 A (64%), MinCell: 3549mV, MaxPackTemp: 18C
 07603     12/12/2017 04:49:55   Riding                     PackTemp: h 18C, l 18C, PackSOC: 41%, Vpack: 99.798V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:2377, Odo:11628km
 07604     12/12/2017 04:49:55   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    346 A (66%), MinCell: 3542mV, MaxPackTemp: 18C
 07605     12/12/2017 04:50:55   Riding                     PackTemp: h 18C, l 18C, PackSOC: 41%, Vpack:100.091V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:  68, Odo:11628km
 07606     12/12/2017 04:50:55   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    366 A (70%), MinCell: 3563mV, MaxPackTemp: 18C
 07607     12/12/2017 04:51:55   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 40%, Vpack: 98.522V, MotAmps:  38, BattAmps:  19, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  47C, CtrlTemp:  14C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1636, Odo:11629km
 07608     12/12/2017 04:51:55   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    322 A (61%), MinCell: 3486mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07609     12/12/2017 04:52:55   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 40%, Vpack: 98.751V, MotAmps:  55, BattAmps:  22, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  43C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1279, Odo:11629km
 07610     12/12/2017 04:52:55   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    353 A (67%), MinCell: 3505mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07611     12/12/2017 04:53:26   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 07612     12/12/2017 04:53:26   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 07613     12/12/2017 04:53:28   Power Off                  Key Switch
 07614     12/12/2017 04:53:28   Sevcon Turned Off
 07615     12/12/2017 04:53:28   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod: 100.018V, batt curr:   0A
 07616     12/12/2017 04:53:28   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod: 100.040V, batt curr:   0A
 07617     12/12/2017 04:53:29   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2
 07618     12/12/2017 04:53:29   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3
 07619                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External
 07620                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 07621                       0   Key On
 07622                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode
 07623                       0   Module 00 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 07624                       0   Module 01 Opening Contactor  vmod:   0.000V, batt curr:   0A
 07625                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 07626                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 07627                       1   Sevcon Turned On
 07628                       1   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07629                       1   Module 01 CAN Link Up
 07630                       1   Module 01 Registered       serial: 16sg2651,  vmod: 101.317V
 07631     12/12/2017 13:48:12   Module 00 CAN Link Up
 07632     12/12/2017 13:48:12   Module 00 Registered       serial: 16sg2654,  vmod: 101.286V
 07633     12/12/2017 13:48:12   Sevcon CAN Link Up
 07634     12/12/2017 13:48:13   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.
 07635     12/12/2017 13:48:13   Module 00 Closing Contactor  vmod: 101.285V, maxsys: 101.310V, minsys: 101.284V, diff: 0.026V, vcap: 89.500V, prechg: 88%
 07636     12/12/2017 13:48:13   Module 01 Closing Contactor  vmod: 101.310V, maxsys: 101.310V, minsys: 101.284V, diff: 0.026V, vcap: 89.500V, prechg: 88%
 07637     12/12/2017 13:48:13   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed
 07638     12/12/2017 13:48:13   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2
 07639     12/12/2017 13:48:13   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3
 07640     12/12/2017 13:48:13   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed
 07641     12/12/2017 13:48:21   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 40%, Vpack:101.304V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  29C, CtrlTemp:  14C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11630km
 07642     12/12/2017 13:48:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    448 A (86%), MinCell: 3615mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07643     12/12/2017 13:48:55   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
 07644     12/12/2017 13:48:55   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 07645     12/12/2017 13:49:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 40%, Vpack:100.859V, MotAmps:  40, BattAmps:   6, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  29C, CtrlTemp:  14C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 424, Odo:11630km
 07646     12/12/2017 13:49:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    422 A (81%), MinCell: 3589mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07647     12/12/2017 13:50:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 39%, Vpack:101.903V, MotAmps: -59, BattAmps: -24, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:1578, Odo:11630km
 07648     12/12/2017 13:50:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    399 A (76%), MinCell: 3596mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07649     12/12/2017 13:51:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 39%, Vpack: 99.176V, MotAmps:  30, BattAmps:  26, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  33C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:2730, Odo:11631km
 07650     12/12/2017 13:51:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    386 A (74%), MinCell: 3529mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07651     12/12/2017 13:52:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 38%, Vpack:100.251V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  33C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:2255, Odo:11632km
 07652     12/12/2017 13:52:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    379 A (72%), MinCell: 3576mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07653     12/12/2017 13:53:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 38%, Vpack:100.274V, MotAmps:  14, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  33C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 226, Odo:11632km
 07654     12/12/2017 13:53:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    384 A (73%), MinCell: 3576mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07655     12/12/2017 13:54:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 19C, PackSOC: 36%, Vpack: 93.210V, MotAmps: 116, BattAmps: 125, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:3266, Odo:11633km
 07656     12/12/2017 13:54:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    281 A (54%), MinCell: 3304mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 07657     12/12/2017 13:55:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 20C, l 19C, PackSOC: 34%, Vpack: 93.911V, MotAmps:  72, BattAmps:  83, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  42C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:3598, Odo:11634km
 07658     12/12/2017 13:55:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    257 A (49%), MinCell: 3334mV, MaxPackTemp: 20C
 07659     12/12/2017 13:56:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 21C, PackSOC: 30%, Vpack: 95.499V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  48C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:3318, Odo:11636km
 07660     12/12/2017 13:56:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    114 A (21%), MinCell: 3232mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 07661     12/12/2017 13:56:24   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07662     12/12/2017 13:57:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 21C, PackSOC: 29%, Vpack: 96.068V, MotAmps:  48, BattAmps:  39, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  46C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:2660, Odo:11636km
 07663     12/12/2017 13:57:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    269 A (51%), MinCell: 3391mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 07664     12/12/2017 13:58:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 29%, Vpack: 98.297V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  45C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:1468, Odo:11637km
 07665     12/12/2017 13:58:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    296 A (56%), MinCell: 3501mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 07666     12/12/2017 13:59:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 29%, Vpack: 98.871V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  43C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:1130, Odo:11637km
 07667     12/12/2017 13:59:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    326 A (62%), MinCell: 3526mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 07668     12/12/2017 14:00:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 29%, Vpack: 99.072V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11637km
 07669     12/12/2017 14:00:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    338 A (65%), MinCell: 3530mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 07670     12/12/2017 14:01:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 22C, PackSOC: 28%, Vpack: 95.970V, MotAmps:  59, BattAmps:  53, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:2861, Odo:11638km
 07671     12/12/2017 14:01:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    291 A (55%), MinCell: 3407mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 07672     12/12/2017 14:02:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 26%, Vpack: 91.699V, MotAmps:  86, BattAmps: 122, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:3973, Odo:11639km
 07673     12/12/2017 14:02:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    122 A (23%), MinCell: 3233mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07674     12/12/2017 14:03:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 25%, Vpack: 96.110V, MotAmps:  68, BattAmps:  44, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:2004, Odo:11640km
 07675     12/12/2017 14:03:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    276 A (53%), MinCell: 3414mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07676     12/12/2017 14:04:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 24%, Vpack: 94.879V, MotAmps:  50, BattAmps:  51, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:3070, Odo:11641km
 07677     12/12/2017 14:04:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    228 A (43%), MinCell: 3348mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07678     12/12/2017 14:04:30   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07679     12/12/2017 14:04:30   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV
 07680     12/12/2017 14:05:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 24%, Vpack: 97.918V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11641km
 07681     12/12/2017 14:05:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    284 A (54%), MinCell: 3488mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07682     12/12/2017 14:06:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 24%, Vpack: 98.214V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11641km
 07683     12/12/2017 14:06:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    305 A (58%), MinCell: 3500mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07684     12/12/2017 14:07:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 23%, Vpack: 95.257V, MotAmps:  71, BattAmps:  63, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:2735, Odo:11641km
 07685     12/12/2017 14:07:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    278 A (53%), MinCell: 3366mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07686     12/12/2017 14:08:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 23C, PackSOC: 22%, Vpack: 97.619V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  42C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM:1109, Odo:11642km
 07687     12/12/2017 14:08:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    274 A (52%), MinCell: 3436mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07688     12/12/2017 14:09:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 24C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 96.574V, MotAmps:  31, BattAmps:  25, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  42C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:2432, Odo:11643km
 07689     12/12/2017 14:09:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    271 A (52%), MinCell: 3429mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07690     12/12/2017 14:10:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 24C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 97.043V, MotAmps:  37, BattAmps:  16, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:1454, Odo:11644km
 07691     12/12/2017 14:10:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    282 A (54%), MinCell: 3456mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07692     12/12/2017 14:11:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 24C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 97.828V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:  99, Odo:11644km
 07693     12/12/2017 14:11:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    287 A (55%), MinCell: 3486mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07694     12/12/2017 14:12:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 24C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 97.995V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 275, Odo:11644km
 07695     12/12/2017 14:12:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    298 A (57%), MinCell: 3493mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07696     12/12/2017 14:13:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 98.025V, MotAmps:  14, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  39C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM: 177, Odo:11644km
 07697     12/12/2017 14:13:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    303 A (58%), MinCell: 3494mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07698     12/12/2017 14:14:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 97.187V, MotAmps:  65, BattAmps:  22, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:1070, Odo:11644km
 07699     12/12/2017 14:14:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    302 A (58%), MinCell: 3463mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07700     12/12/2017 14:15:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 98.093V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  39C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM: 223, Odo:11645km
 07701     12/12/2017 14:15:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    304 A (58%), MinCell: 3493mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07702     12/12/2017 14:16:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 98.145V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11645km
 07703     12/12/2017 14:16:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    307 A (59%), MinCell: 3499mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07704     12/12/2017 14:17:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 98.218V, MotAmps: -14, BattAmps:  -1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 634, Odo:11645km
 07705     12/12/2017 14:17:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    304 A (58%), MinCell: 3502mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07706     12/12/2017 14:18:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 98.149V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 239, Odo:11645km
 07707     12/12/2017 14:18:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    308 A (59%), MinCell: 3499mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07708     12/12/2017 14:19:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 98.089V, MotAmps:  10, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  15C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 540, Odo:11645km
 07709     12/12/2017 14:19:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    309 A (59%), MinCell: 3497mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07710     12/12/2017 14:20:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 21%, Vpack: 97.438V, MotAmps:  59, BattAmps:  15, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  14C, MotRPM: 774, Odo:11645km
 07711     12/12/2017 14:20:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    301 A (57%), MinCell: 3476mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07712     12/12/2017 14:21:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 20%, Vpack: 97.890V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM: 470, Odo:11645km
 07713     12/12/2017 14:21:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    296 A (56%), MinCell: 3486mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07714     12/12/2017 14:22:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 20%, Vpack: 97.410V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  42C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:1117, Odo:11646km
 07715     12/12/2017 14:22:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    254 A (48%), MinCell: 3470mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 07716     12/12/2017 14:23:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 24C, PackSOC: 17%, Vpack: 94.144V, MotAmps:  42, BattAmps:  40, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  46C, CtrlTemp:  18C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:2806, Odo:11647km
 07717     12/12/2017 14:23:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    139 A (26%), MinCell: 3332mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07718     12/12/2017 14:24:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 24C, l 24C, PackSOC: 17%, Vpack: 96.697V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:1442, Odo:11648km
 07719     12/12/2017 14:24:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    235 A (45%), MinCell: 3426mV, MaxPackTemp: 24C
 07720     12/12/2017 14:25:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 25C, l 24C, PackSOC: 16%, Vpack: 95.147V, MotAmps:  55, BattAmps:  36, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:1921, Odo:11648km
 07721     12/12/2017 14:25:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    223 A (42%), MinCell: 3381mV, MaxPackTemp: 25C
 07722     12/12/2017 14:26:21   Riding                     PackTemp: h 25C, l 24C, PackSOC: 16%, Vpack: 97.010V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  42C, CtrlTemp:  16C, AmbTemp:  13C, MotRPM:   0, Odo:11649km
 07723     12/12/2017 14:26:21   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    260 A (50%), MinCell: 3457mV, MaxPackTemp: 25C
 07724     12/12/2017 14:26:21   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
 07725     12/12/2017 14:26:21   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 07726     12/12/2017 14:26:41   Calex 720W Charger 0 Connected   
 07727     12/12/2017 14:26:41   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Charging mode
 07728     12/12/2017 14:26:41   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
 07729     12/12/2017 14:26:41   INFO:  Enabling Calex 720W Charger 0
 07730     12/12/2017 14:26:42   Calex 1200W Charger 1 Connected   
 07731     12/12/2017 14:26:42   INFO:  Enabling Calex 1200W Charger 1
 07732     12/12/2017 14:26:46   Key Off
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: Richard230 on December 13, 2017, 09:30:09 PM
This may not have anything to do with your question (but then again it might), but I have gotten the impression from owning a 2014 S for 3.5 years, that Zero's batteries degrade in service more than we might expect from their advertising claims.  And that degradation is not the same from cell to cell.  Not that this is any real news to me, as my first two electric motorcycles used Hi Power Li batteries and they were all over the map after they went through about 50 cycles of charging and discharging. I believe that Zero's BMS is very conservative and does its best to insure the health of the entire battery pack, even if that means cutting power when it senses battery stress resulting from even one bad cell that is not keeping up with the rest in the pack.
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: domingo3 on December 13, 2017, 11:47:17 PM
This may not have anything to do with your question (but then again it might), but I have gotten the impression from owning a 2014 S for 3.5 years, that Zero's batteries degrade in service more than we might expect from their advertising claims.  And that degradation is not the same from cell to cell.  Not that this is any real news to me, as my first two electric motorcycles used Hi Power Li batteries and they were all over the map after they went through about 50 cycles of charging and discharging. I believe that Zero's BMS is very conservative and does its best to insure the health of the entire battery pack, even if that means cutting power when it senses battery stress resulting from even one bad cell that is not keeping up with the rest in the pack.

Thanks for the reply.  Re-reading the Zero warranty information, it covers a loss in capacity, but not other measures of service degradation.  Hypothetically, this could be interpreted that even if the discharge current was drastically limited due to a single bad cell, it wouldn't qualify as a warranty claim as long as the good cells retained their capacity.  I'm not inclined to go down the warranty road right now because 1) the dealer is so far away, 2) I have a lot of time left on the battery warranty and 3) I have my doubts if it would pay off.  I will if it gets worse and/or when it gets closer to the end of the warranty period.
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: Burton on December 14, 2017, 02:16:38 AM
This is where using a volt meter pays off ... if you can see the voltage you will know when your bike goes into limit mode.

I suspect you were at or below 96vdc while riding at 50mph the other day (this doesn't account for how thick the air is or how windy either) ...

At this point I think it is silly to even consider winter riding without using a volt meter.

Installing a Cycle Analyst is worth its weight in gold and it isn't too hard to do. If not you can always hook up a multi-meter like Terry does for long trips so you can keep an eye on the battery voltage.

I would suspect to prove a capacity issue with the bike it would have to be thrown on a dynometer in a controlled environment and its range / charge / discharge capacity tested there ...

On my 2013 S (original battery) at around 96vdc the bike will start to reduce power output ... at 93vdc you are in or really close to limp home mode ... I have taken it down to 90vdc once on a really cold day and barely got into my garage before charging. It was at 0SOC after it started to charge ... before then, with 90vdc on my CA I had 3 bars left on my SOC indicator before powering the bike down.

You cannot trust the SOC indicators ... get a volt meter ;)
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: gt13013 on December 18, 2017, 07:23:04 AM
Hello. I also have a FXS 2016, and a lot of "Batt Dischg Cur Limited" in my logs.
But last winter I did not record any log, and I have nothing to compare with...
If you are interested, I can send you my logs in PM.
Here is some example:

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06791                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External   
 06792                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 06793                       0   Key On   
 06794                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode   
 06795                       0   Module 00                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 06796                       0   Module 01                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 06797                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode   
 06798                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode   
 06799                       1   Sevcon Turned On   
 06800                       1   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 06801                       1   Module 00                  serial: 16sg2754,  vmod: 107.183V
 06802     12/16/2017 17:00:05   Module 01                  serial: 16sg2639,  vmod: 107.183V
 06803     12/16/2017 17:00:05   Module 01 CAN Link Up   
 06804     12/16/2017 17:00:05   CAN1 ACK error. count=1   
 06805     12/16/2017 17:00:10   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 06806     12/16/2017 17:00:10   Sevcon not ready to be checked for 11kW, Disabling Bike until a battery has connected and we can check the sevcon   
 06807     12/16/2017 17:00:10   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 06808     12/16/2017 17:00:10   Module 00                  vmod: 107.161 maxsys: 107.16 minsys: 107.122 diff: 0.038 vcap: 94.75 prechg: 88%
 06809     12/16/2017 17:00:10   Module 01                  vmod: 107.162 maxsys: 107.16 minsys: 107.122 diff: 0.038 vcap: 94.75 prechg: 88%
 06810     12/16/2017 17:00:10   Sevcon Not setup for 11kW about to set   
 06811     12/16/2017 17:00:11   Succesfully configured controller as 11kW   
 06812     12/16/2017 17:00:11   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed   
 06813     12/16/2017 17:00:11   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed   
 06814     12/16/2017 17:00:11   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 06815     12/16/2017 17:00:11   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 06816     12/16/2017 17:00:14   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:107.167V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  18C, CtrlTemp:   7C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4569km
 06817     12/16/2017 17:01:14   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:107.115V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  22C, CtrlTemp:   7C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4569km
 06818     12/16/2017 17:02:14   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:107.085V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  21C, CtrlTemp:   7C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4569km
 06819     12/16/2017 17:02:15   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode   
 06820     12/16/2017 17:02:15   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 06821     12/16/2017 17:03:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 16C, l 16C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:106.836V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  21C, CtrlTemp:   9C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1164, Odo: 4569km
 06822     12/16/2017 17:04:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 16C, l 16C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:106.013V, MotAmps:   8, BattAmps:   3, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  23C, CtrlTemp:   9C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1501, Odo: 4570km
 06823     12/16/2017 17:05:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 16C, l 16C, PackSOC: 72%, Vpack: 103.79V, MotAmps:  60, BattAmps:  33, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  24C, CtrlTemp:   9C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1914, Odo: 4570km
 06824     12/16/2017 17:06:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 16C, l 16C, PackSOC: 71%, Vpack: 102.24V, MotAmps:  49, BattAmps:  46, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  27C, CtrlTemp:  10C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:3060, Odo: 4571km
 06825     12/16/2017 17:06:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    501 A (96%), MinCell: 3629mV, MaxPackTemp: 16C
 06826     12/16/2017 17:07:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 69%, Vpack:103.822V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  29C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:3479, Odo: 4572km
 06827     12/16/2017 17:07:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    480 A (92%), MinCell: 3557mV, MaxPackTemp: 17C
 06828     12/16/2017 17:08:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 68%, Vpack:104.528V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps: -15, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:2170, Odo: 4573km
 06829     12/16/2017 17:08:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    455 A (87%), MinCell: 3717mV, MaxPackTemp: 17C
 06830     12/16/2017 17:09:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 68%, Vpack:104.459V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -9, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:2369, Odo: 4574km
 06831     12/16/2017 17:09:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    494 A (95%), MinCell: 3529mV, MaxPackTemp: 17C
 06832     12/16/2017 17:10:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, PackSOC: 67%, Vpack:100.455V, MotAmps:  55, BattAmps:  57, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:3325, Odo: 4575km
 06833     12/16/2017 17:10:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    463 A (89%), MinCell: 3572mV, MaxPackTemp: 17C
 06834     12/16/2017 17:11:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 18C, l 17C, PackSOC: 64%, Vpack: 92.722V, MotAmps:  86, BattAmps: 176, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  14C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:5012, Odo: 4576km
 06835     12/16/2017 17:11:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    199 A (38%), MinCell: 3166mV, MaxPackTemp: 18C
 06836     12/16/2017 17:12:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 19C, l 18C, PackSOC: 62%, Vpack: 97.846V, MotAmps:  42, BattAmps:  59, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  14C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:4140, Odo: 4577km
 06837     12/16/2017 17:12:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    230 A (44%), MinCell: 3234mV, MaxPackTemp: 19C
 06838     12/16/2017 17:13:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 20C, l 19C, PackSOC: 60%, Vpack: 96.691V, MotAmps: 134, BattAmps: 116, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  39C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:2718, Odo: 4579km
 06839     12/16/2017 17:13:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    374 A (71%), MinCell: 3433mV, MaxPackTemp: 20C
 06840     12/16/2017 17:14:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 20C, l 19C, PackSOC: 59%, Vpack:101.965V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -8, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:1844, Odo: 4580km
 06841     12/16/2017 17:14:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    386 A (74%), MinCell: 3619mV, MaxPackTemp: 20C
 06842     12/16/2017 17:15:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 57%, Vpack:101.891V, MotAmps: -16, BattAmps: -13, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:3528, Odo: 4581km
 06843     12/16/2017 17:15:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    376 A (72%), MinCell: 3553mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06844     12/16/2017 17:16:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 57%, Vpack: 99.613V, MotAmps:  69, BattAmps:  60, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  10C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:2727, Odo: 4582km
 06845     12/16/2017 17:16:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    429 A (82%), MinCell: 3556mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06846     12/16/2017 17:17:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 57%, Vpack:101.152V, MotAmps:  47, BattAmps:  23, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  10C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:1635, Odo: 4582km
 06847     12/16/2017 17:17:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    438 A (84%), MinCell: 3608mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06848     12/16/2017 17:18:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 56%, Vpack:102.771V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps: -15, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  10C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:2239, Odo: 4583km
 06849     12/16/2017 17:18:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    427 A (82%), MinCell: 3658mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06850     12/16/2017 17:19:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 55%, Vpack:101.643V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  10C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:3422, Odo: 4584km
 06851     12/16/2017 17:19:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    408 A (78%), MinCell: 3578mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06852     12/16/2017 17:20:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 55%, Vpack:102.475V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -6, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  35C, CtrlTemp:   9C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:1664, Odo: 4585km
 06853     12/16/2017 17:20:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    440 A (84%), MinCell: 3599mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06854     12/16/2017 17:21:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 54%, Vpack: 99.192V, MotAmps:  17, BattAmps:  22, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:4228, Odo: 4586km
 06855     12/16/2017 17:21:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    332 A (63%), MinCell: 3314mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06856     12/16/2017 17:22:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, PackSOC: 53%, Vpack: 98.978V, MotAmps:  73, BattAmps:  51, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:1986, Odo: 4587km
 06857     12/16/2017 17:22:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    372 A (71%), MinCell: 3520mV, MaxPackTemp: 21C
 06858     12/16/2017 17:23:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 51%, Vpack:101.491V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps: -17, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:2616, Odo: 4588km
 06859     12/16/2017 17:23:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    325 A (62%), MinCell: 3606mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06860     12/16/2017 17:24:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 50%, Vpack: 96.077V, MotAmps: 107, BattAmps: 108, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:3364, Odo: 4589km
 06861     12/16/2017 17:24:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    347 A (66%), MinCell: 3345mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06862     12/16/2017 17:25:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 49%, Vpack:101.011V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps: -17, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   6C, MotRPM:2403, Odo: 4590km
 06863     12/16/2017 17:25:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    274 A (52%), MinCell: 3585mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06864     12/16/2017 17:26:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 48%, Vpack: 100.88V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -7, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:1614, Odo: 4591km
 06865     12/16/2017 17:26:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    346 A (66%), MinCell: 3592mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06866     12/16/2017 17:27:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 48%, Vpack:101.049V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -7, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  39C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:1811, Odo: 4592km
 06867     12/16/2017 17:27:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    363 A (69%), MinCell: 3542mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06868     12/16/2017 17:28:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 47%, Vpack:101.247V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -5, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:1560, Odo: 4592km
 06869     12/16/2017 17:28:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    372 A (71%), MinCell: 3608mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06870     12/16/2017 17:29:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 47%, Vpack:100.723V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  39C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:1838, Odo: 4593km
 06871     12/16/2017 17:29:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    360 A (69%), MinCell: 3586mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06872     12/16/2017 17:30:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 46%, Vpack:101.407V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps: -11, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:1709, Odo: 4594km
 06873     12/16/2017 17:30:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    384 A (73%), MinCell: 3617mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06874     12/16/2017 17:31:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 45%, Vpack: 97.938V, MotAmps:  52, BattAmps:  57, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:3479, Odo: 4595km
 06875     12/16/2017 17:31:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    263 A (50%), MinCell: 3451mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06876     12/16/2017 17:32:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 44%, Vpack:  98.44V, MotAmps:  44, BattAmps:  43, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM:3081, Odo: 4596km
 06877     12/16/2017 17:32:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    348 A (66%), MinCell: 3431mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06878     12/16/2017 17:33:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 44%, Vpack: 99.451V, MotAmps: 122, BattAmps:  32, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   7C, MotRPM: 781, Odo: 4596km
 06879     12/16/2017 17:33:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    385 A (74%), MinCell: 3528mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06880     12/16/2017 17:34:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 44%, Vpack: 99.502V, MotAmps:  43, BattAmps:  28, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  37C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:2016, Odo: 4597km
 06881     12/16/2017 17:34:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    377 A (72%), MinCell: 3553mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06882     12/16/2017 17:35:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 43%, Vpack: 98.853V, MotAmps:  54, BattAmps:  38, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:2365, Odo: 4598km
 06883     12/16/2017 17:35:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    373 A (71%), MinCell: 3491mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06884     12/16/2017 17:36:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 42%, Vpack: 97.948V, MotAmps:  84, BattAmps:  53, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  13C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1996, Odo: 4599km
 06885     12/16/2017 17:36:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    289 A (55%), MinCell: 3484mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06886     12/16/2017 17:37:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 41%, Vpack: 97.637V, MotAmps: 125, BattAmps:  51, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  41C, CtrlTemp:  13C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1221, Odo: 4599km
 06887     12/16/2017 17:37:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    297 A (57%), MinCell: 3450mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06888     12/16/2017 17:38:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 41%, Vpack:100.495V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps:  -8, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  40C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:1331, Odo: 4600km
 06889     12/16/2017 17:38:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    349 A (67%), MinCell: 3574mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06890     12/16/2017 17:39:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 40%, Vpack:100.527V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -9, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  39C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:2299, Odo: 4601km
 06891     12/16/2017 17:39:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    347 A (66%), MinCell: 3582mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06892     12/16/2017 17:40:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 40%, Vpack: 98.466V, MotAmps:  60, BattAmps:  40, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  38C, CtrlTemp:  12C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:2172, Odo: 4601km
 06893     12/16/2017 17:40:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    352 A (67%), MinCell: 3494mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06894     12/16/2017 17:41:14   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, PackSOC: 39%, Vpack:100.354V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4602km
 06895     12/16/2017 17:41:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    374 A (71%), MinCell: 3572mV, MaxPackTemp: 23C
 06896     12/16/2017 17:41:29   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode   
 06897     12/16/2017 17:41:29   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 06898     12/16/2017 17:41:51   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode   
 06899     12/16/2017 17:41:51   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 06900     12/16/2017 17:42:05   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode   
 06901     12/16/2017 17:42:05   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 06902     12/16/2017 17:42:14   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 39%, Vpack: 100.58V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  11C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4602km
 06903     12/16/2017 17:42:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    392 A (75%), MinCell: 3583mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06904     12/16/2017 17:43:14   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, PackSOC: 39%, Vpack:100.694V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  36C, CtrlTemp:  10C, AmbTemp:   8C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 4602km
 06905     12/16/2017 17:43:14   Batt Dischg Cur Limited    399 A (76%), MinCell: 3587mV, MaxPackTemp: 22C
 06906     12/16/2017 17:43:16   Power Off                  Key Switch
 06907     12/16/2017 17:43:16   Sevcon Turned Off   
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: domingo3 on April 26, 2018, 08:34:31 PM
  Update, but not really.  My bike has been at the dealer for over a month to diagnose the issue.  Initially, they said that they updated the firmware and it tested fine, and then I asked them to ride it at lower SOC and they were able to reproduce the inability to maintain highway speed.  (Side note, it's unfortunate they they updated the firmware, but I didn't feel that I had a choice if I wanted them to diagnose the bike.)  When I called on Tuesday (4/24), they said they were sending additional data back to Zero and waiting for their engineers to propose a solution.  I feel frustrated, but at least am hopeful that they'll do something with it after having it for so long.
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: BamBam on April 26, 2018, 09:29:15 PM
FWIW, my 2106 FXS did the same thing.  I forget the exact SOC when it would drastically reduce speed, but I also couldn't go over 50 mph.  It was also during the winter.  My FXS got totaled in January when some idiot in a car slid on some ice and took it out, so I now have a DSR.

It could be just the BMS doing its job, but when I mentioned that to my dealer he thought it sounded strange.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  Maybe some other FX/FXS owners will chime in about their experience.
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: BamBam on April 26, 2018, 10:46:44 PM
Installing a Cycle Analyst is worth its weight in gold and it isn't too hard to do. If not you can always hook up a multi-meter like Terry does for long trips so you can keep an eye on the battery voltage.

Not to hijack this thread, but could you please elaborate on your Cycle Analyst setup.  I looked at their website and they have several different models and connection configurations.  Thanks
Title: Re: Batt Dischg Cur Limited - How much is normal and can anything be done?
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on April 27, 2018, 02:39:38 AM
Installing a Cycle Analyst is worth its weight in gold and it isn't too hard to do. If not you can always hook up a multi-meter like Terry does for long trips so you can keep an eye on the battery voltage.

Not to hijack this thread, but could you please elaborate on your Cycle Analyst setup.  I looked at their website and they have several different models and connection configurations.  Thanks

Here's an older post of his linking to his 2013 install description: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=3176.msg56253#msg56253
And here is Burton's info overview thread: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=5155