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Marketplace => Buy Sell Trade => Topic started by: fsaintl on August 26, 2017, 05:19:15 AM
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2017 Energica Ego - Number 69 of production. Less than 100 miles. Almost new!
Original MSRP at time of purchase was $45,291
Current MSRP of $40,746 after Energica lowered their prices.
2017 ENERGICA EGO w/Bluetooth
ENGINE POWER: 107 kW / 145 HP
TORQUE: 200 Nm/147 lb-ft 0-4500 rpm!!!!
BATTERY CAPACITY: 11.7 kWh
LIFE: 1200 cycles @ 80% capacity (100% DOD)
RECHARGE: 3,5 h (0-100% SOC) mode 1-2 or 3 charge, 30 min (0-85% SOC) mode 4 DC fast charge
Zero Emissions
Base Price $ 29,700
Optional Carbon Fiber $ 1,454
Oz aluminum forged wheels $ 1,978
Ohlins rear shock $ 1,037
Custom Ohlins front forks $ 3,197
ACCESSORIES
Tech seat $ 576
Fast Charge $ 1,728
Sport Map $ 504
Blue ERGAL bolt kit $ 273
120V-240V Charger $ 299
Total new price $ 40,746
Asking $29,000 Price Drop $24,000 $16,995
Owner wants this gone. Dropping price absurdly low. With these options this model is still over $32,000 new.
Very small blemish on upper cowl, visible in photo. In excellent condition. Bike received minor damage in shipping. Damaged parts replaced by OEM parts from Energica.
PM me on here, or email me at "fsl at mac dot com"
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Thanks for posting!
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I suppose that (69) gives us a lower bound on the number of units produced! If not sold...
Those eye-wateringly high prices, though. Whew.
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How many miles per charge does this EGO get? Is it a street bike or race bike?
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The manufacturer claims that it has a range of approximately 100 miles. The Ego does have regenerative braking so theoretically it would have a greater range in town than on the highway.
This is the street version, with mirrors, tag holder, turn signals, etc. It does have the optional Sport map. There is a bluetooth app which syncs to the bike, and if your battery is getting lo you can use the menu button on the left handlebar to find the nearest charging station, and sort by available spots or charge capacity.
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This must be the Ego that fell off of the shipping truck late last year. I was in the bidding for it but the gentleman doing the silent auction came back with a $10K "buy it now" offer that I was not interested in sight unseen and untested for frame damage. Looks like this gentleman bought and had it repaired but I dunno about that eyewatering price considering the history. I'd say maybe $20K max, but more than likely close to $16-18K depending on how it rides and on the repair job. Does this come with a salvage title considering the insurance company totaled it?
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Hi fsaintl, could you make a video showing the bike is still functioning and riding well?
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Hmm. I'm not sure why I didn't get notification of these posts.
-> turbotortuga - you are the second person to make reference to this bike having "fallen off" the shipping truck. Can you please elaborate as to what you saw?
I have the bike in my possession, and after 17 years in the motorcycle industry I can guarantee that it didn't fall off a truck. It never even fell over all the way. Pegs, turn signals, lower body components, outermost body points, etc. are all perfect. Based on a detailed inspection of the bike, it is obvious that it fell over until the seat/"fuel shelter" where they meet impacted a piece of wood which stopped the fall from going any further. I suspect it was the edge of a crate since it damaged the bike at its narrowest point without ever hitting any of the contact points farther from the centerline. The direction of damage indicates that this happened when the bike fell to the left, and was stopped at approximately 30 degrees. At that point someone used the mirrors as grab points, and straightened the bike, breaking the right mirror off in the process. The mirror base was bent in the wrong direction, and on the wrong side of the bike, to have been from the fall. The top of the brake lever and the top of the bar end weight both had a almost imperceptible scratch on the top of their edges, not bottom. This was most likely from the aggressive over straightening of the bike by the shipper/driver causing the bike to hit a vertical surface, most likely the wall of the truck. There is also a one inch long scratch on the upper cowl which would have been the outermost contact point now that the mirror had been broken off, which is at the same height as the minor damage to the right rear upper cowl around the seat. There are a couple of very small scuffs on the windshield and lower carbon bodywork that you have to look at in the right light to actually see. The coolant reservoir for the CPU shows no trace of any fluid having leaked out. The underside of the reservoir cap is even dry.
I've had all the body work off, and performed a thorough inspection. None of the body work was damaged enough to even touch the frame. In the pictures above, the only pieces that have been replaced are the "fuel shelter" for lack of a better word, the upper rear side cowls on both sides, the right mirror, and the seat has been repaired by adding the green vinyl to the leading edge to repair the torn area.
This was shipped, and insured, as cargo. It had not yet been titled at the time it was damaged so it does not have a salvage title.
I'm not sure at what point in the process the decision was made to "total" the shipment, but it is obvious someone along the way wanted it to be totaled. The estimate included $13,000 in shipping charges to have the bike shipped to the EGO office in San Francisco to be evaluated. I'm not sure how they were going to ship it, but I regularly ship and receive motorcycles from around the US and the most I have ever paid was $825, from the Smoky Mountains to Seattle. I was curious so I got a freight quote and if I sent it overnight express by UPS Freight it still wouldn't cost $6,500 each way. I mentioned earlier that the right bar end weight had a very small scuff on it. The repair estimate listed the complete EGO Ergal screw kit price, when in reality only one piece was needed. The repair estimate listed the tech seat at $576, which is both the front and rear seat even though just the front seat was damaged. In other words, the estimate may have been absurdly high.
I've done a forensic analysis of quite a few motorcycles over the years, and in some cases have found that the underlying damage was far worse than the cosmetic damage on the surface would lead you to believe, but in this case the cosmetic damage was in fact just cosmetic. I've gone over the entire frame looking for any marks, examined all the bodywork both on the surface and also the back side of each piece looking for evidence of contact, measured the wheelbase from front to rear axles on both the left and right side, examined the forks and swing arm in detail, and have run through the on board diagnostics. I have also road tested the bike up to illegal speeds, and I can guarantee that this bike did not "get dropped off the truck". Anyone who has seen the bike in person would think that claim is absurd.
There is still one sign of damage on the bike that we elected not to replace. The upper edge of the carbon trim piece below the seat on the left side of the bike has a small chip in it about the size of half a quarter. If you get down on the ground, look back up, and shine a really bright light on it you will see it but if I hadn't of told you where it was you wouldn't have found it.
I'll get a video or two posted in the next few days. Thanksgiving is coming up and I am in the middle of selling a house but I'll find the time to make a video. The bike runs well, rides straight, and the acceleration is very addictive. I've driven a Tesla, and this feels faster. I've also ridden everything from a Ruckus to Hayabusa. Nothing compares to the effortless and smooth application of power.
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I forgot to mention, I may have determined the probable cause of the damage.
The right grip was torn pretty badly. It looks like the type of damage I have seen before when a canyon dancer is used or when a shipper uses the grips as a tie down point straight down to the pallet. Also, when I received the bike the clip ons were set at 180 degrees (9 and 3 o'clock) instead of the proper 8 and 4 positions, so when you tried to turn the bars to the left the front brake would engage against the upper cowl. It is possible that a shipper/driver was rolling the bike and had the wheel lock up when turning left, which would explain the pattern of the damage.
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Thanks for that description; I suspect that Energica bikes just get a real white-glove mentality around them regarding damage declarations because of a lack of track record with them.
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The price has been dropped in the initial post. Now asking $24,000
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The price has been dropped in the initial post. Now asking $24,000
You will probably need to drop it further.
They're $24,900 brand new right now.
http://configurator.energicamotorusa.com/start/EO
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And $16,100 for the lowest-price base 2017 Energica Eva at my local dealer.
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You will probably need to drop it further.
They're $24,900 brand new right now.
http://configurator.energicamotorusa.com/start/EO
thanks,
I used the configurator and it came up to $31,737.20 as configured since they have the Fast charger and Sport Map free right now as a promotion. Add another $500-$800 for shipping depending on your location and this one has a charger included as well.
I'll happily entertain reasonable offers.
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Got that video showing it's working as it should yet?
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No. They salted the roads and I refuse to take this out on the roads until the salt has been completely washed away.
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Owner wants this gone! Dropped the price in the original listing to $16,995. As configured this one is still over $32,000 brand new.
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I thought you were the owner. ;) Why would the owner want a great bike gone for half the money?
Got that video of it working yet? :D I ask again for the third time.
I guess you believe someone should just throw a pile of money at a rare, nearly impossible to get fixed locally, dropped, expensive motorcycle with, what I'm guessing is a voided warranty.
I'd say this bike may be worth $7000 to an EE who can live with the headaches and garage art prospect or who would part it out.
Please do what you said you would do or kindly quit trying to hook someone who would think they're getting a deal.
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Are you an interested buyer, or just an internet expert who likes to speculate and throw hate around? Based on your username and the multiple instances of conjecture in your post, I'm going to assume you are the type of person who thinks his brand or choice is the only valid one and that everyone else is an idiot for choosing something else. I get it. That comes across clearly in your post.
Since you are such an interested buyer, what type of video would satisfy you? I'm guessing none, but go ahead and enlighten me. The bike had some minor cosmetic damage. I have completely detailed the few pieces that were replaced in an earlier post. If you don't believe what is in that post, then you are just calling me a liar. That's fine, this is the internet and lots of people like yourself hide behind the keyboard and pretend to be experts. I've been in the motorcycle industry for 18 years, and have performed quite a few forensic inspections on vehicles in the power sports industry for insurance companies, owners, prospective buyers, etc.
If anyone actually is interested, I can take whatever pictures or video are requested. If you are just on here to make yourself feel better about your life choices by degrading or insulting other people, their abilities, and their knowledge, then move along. I am not going to get into a character debate with a total stranger. Come by my shop, come look at in person like an adult, or speak with me like an adult. If you aren't able to do that, why are you even here? You're just using up bandwidth.
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fsaintl, I do not understand the angst at NEW2elec for asking you to post a video showing that it is working well and that there is no frame damage. I actually personally spoke to the adjuster that was trying to unload this thing many months ago and HE described the bike as having been "dropped off the shipping truck" before being delivered to the buyer. I can only repeat what I have been told. I understand that you have valid and extensive motorcycle experience, but all he was asking for was video evidence, which any reasonable person would agree is warranted in this situation.
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Turbo this is what a person like fsaintl does when his "posts" are pointed out to be less than forthcoming.
He let people think he was the bike owner when he is just part of some auctioned bike flipping venture.
fsaintl the then upcoming auction for this bike was posted on here so that's how we all knew what this bike had been through. You weren't fooling anyone.
Owner wants it gone, because he sure as hell won't ride it, is what I take from the price drop.
I looked at a "damaged" Zero many years ago that had been "fixed", they wouldn't allow any test ride of course and error flashes and the stiff roll of a warped rotor showed cosmetic plastic repairs only. When I told them no thanks they weren't out anything and I had to drive an hour home.
I asked you for a video showing that the bike still worked. You said you would post 2 or 3 in a few weeks but "THANKSGIVING" was coming up and you were busy. I asked again and you said there was "salt" on the road so you couldn't show it riding on the road.
Your in NC? It's spring time, pretty and warm no reason not to go on a great bike ride in the smokey mountains.
The type of video that I wanted was the type anyone would want, ride the bike with it preforming correctly. No wobble or vibrations, good stopping power and working regen. Cycle the Energica maps, plug it into a charging station and show the chargers working as they should.
The same check list an 18 year motorcycle dealer would preform for his self.