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Title: Question Charging
Post by: ESokoloff on June 07, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
(2016 DSR) The manual states to charge after each ride but I was hoping to only charge at work or at least do the lions share there (free electricity).

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To get the most power pack life, recharge each power pack immediately after each ride.
2.2 from here... http://media.zeromotorcycles.com/resources/owners-manuals/2016/2016-Zero-Owners-Manual-S-SR-DS-DSR.pdf (http://media.zeromotorcycles.com/resources/owners-manuals/2016/2016-Zero-Owners-Manual-S-SR-DS-DSR.pdf)


What constitutes "After every ride"?
What if your running errands?  Could not each stop be considered end of ride & thus "plug er in" is required? (A bit of a stretch admittedly).

If indeed I must top off after each leg (thus far I have), can I get away with limiting the charge time/level at home?

 According to the info here...http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4280.0 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4280.0)
(#2 & 3 of top tips) I can discharge/charge however I see fit & don't worry about keeping the battery topped off. 


Any input is appreciated.
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: Erasmo on June 07, 2017, 12:13:32 PM
This should provide you with al the information: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6878.0 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6878.0)
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: MrDude_1 on June 08, 2017, 01:28:00 AM
plug it in.
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dont worry about it.
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: Shadow on June 08, 2017, 03:23:05 AM
The charging requirements have relaxed a little since the manual was made, but you do need to keep the battery at 30% SoC or higher. If you get home from work and the SoC is less than 30% you should plug it in to charge. Riding and using the battery down to even 0% SoC is not a bad thing but you should then charge it because it would be less than 30%, per the guidelines as we know them today.
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: ESokoloff on June 08, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
This should provide you with al the information: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6878.0 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6878.0)

Thanks for that but it's basically what the owners manual states.....
Plug it in after EVERY ride. 
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: ESokoloff on June 08, 2017, 09:14:46 AM
plug it in.
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dont worry about it.

Soooo who's retirement funds are we playing with here, yours or mine???  :P

I'm trying to maximize the pay off of this technology (bike) by minimizing my expenditures.
Filling up at work maximizes my plan. 
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: ESokoloff on June 08, 2017, 09:22:19 AM
The charging requirements have relaxed a little since the manual was made, but you do need to keep the battery at 30% SoC or higher. If you get home from work and the SoC is less than 30% you should plug it in to charge. Riding and using the battery down to even 0% SoC is not a bad thing but you should then charge it because it would be less than 30%, per the guidelines as we know them today.

Thanks.

My original plan to solely fill at work is not going to work.
I'm having WAY to much fun on my return home as well as coming to the realization that I should leave adequate reserve in "the tank" in case of the un-known to not put some electrons in the tank at home.

The new plan will be to slowly cut down on the topper at home & charge it to full at work.

(I'm thankful to have an accommodating employer). 
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: Erasmo on June 08, 2017, 02:29:55 PM
How far is your commute?
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: ESokoloff on June 08, 2017, 06:32:00 PM
The shortest route is 26-27 miles with 1.1k' elevation delta (home is higher then work).

The AM trip into work tends to be the fastest (must set alarm earlier!!) but most direct/shortest & with minimal climbing.

The P.M. leg may involve a trip over (not through) the Santa Monica Mountains thus saving myself from the PCH/Malibu traffic but adding distance, altitude, & a spirited ridding style.

I have the regen @ 100% (Custom Mode).
Bike has a screen & Giva bags & I'm about 6'1" so lots of aero drag.

Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: stevenh on June 08, 2017, 09:23:37 PM
I really look forward to my ride into work when I am taking the bike!  I have a 50 mile one way trip.  I get into work with just under 50% normally, with the on-board charger I am topped of by noon (I get in at 6:15am).

Steve
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: MrDude_1 on June 08, 2017, 10:49:47 PM
plug it in.
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.
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dont worry about it.

Soooo who's retirement funds are we playing with here, yours or mine???  :P

I'm trying to maximize the pay off of this technology (bike) by minimizing my expenditures.
Filling up at work maximizes my plan.

before you stress over it, what is your battery at when you get home?

Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: ESokoloff on June 09, 2017, 09:47:20 AM
Battery level upon arriving at home varies greatly as I have more free & day-lit time to take the road(s) less traveled.

I've only documented three of my home bound legs in the three weeks of ownership.
The most battery level has been 67% left & the lowest has been 27% left.
Title: Re: Question Charging
Post by: MrDude_1 on June 09, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
Battery level upon arriving at home varies greatly as I have more free & day-lit time to take the road(s) less traveled.

I've only documented three of my home bound legs in the three weeks of ownership.
The most battery level has been 67% left & the lowest has been 27% left.
So if you have 67% at home (33% used) and expect to use another 33% to get to work.. cool. don't bother plugging in.
If you think you might need more than that to get to work, then plug in.

Electricity is cheap though, so find out the cost per kwh on your electric bill, and figure out what that 33% extra insurance costs you. If its only 25 cents or less to top off at home, why not do it?