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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: Electric Terry on June 01, 2017, 01:38:33 PM
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104 volts at 90% is not accurate. Trust the voltage which says to me about 55% or 60% not 90%. The bike is charging with the onboard right now so real voltage might be 103. So perhaps 55%. 90% should be about 111-112 volts so the SOC meter is inaccurate sometimes. Use the hack to exit out of the run screen and reconnect while riding to get the battery screen and see voltage. For all you with 2014's this will be very handy to know real SOC. Just know that voltage can dip 10-12 volts while accelerating so to know real voltage you must regen to slow down then come to a stop for about 10 seconds or coast if riding
The key to take away from this is if you feel power limiting, come to a stop, check battery voltage, if it's 96 volts or below, find a charger soon, even if your SOC says 60%, you're really about 15%
Even the iPhone can't estimate SOC correct so don't blame Zero, they are doing the best they can with available current sensors, although the 2017's have dual sensors and are extremely accurate. But this is why we need voltage displayed on the app.
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hello, how can you get such strange combinations of SOC and voltage?
My 2014 S shows following figures, taken from the log, values at 0Battamps
32% 99V
48% 102V
66% 105V
seems quite realistic, ?
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hello, how can you get such strange combinations of SOC and voltage?
My 2014 S shows following figures, taken from the log, values at 0Battamps
32% 99V
48% 102V
66% 105V
seems quite realistic, ?
I think he sees more drift than most because of his rate of charge... but that's just a guess.
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Diginow dongle owners can read voltage with Anton's new app. Play Store, named Zero Voltage, company name is Bitshape. I've been testing it, mostly Nexus devices, works great for me.
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Diginow dongle owners can read voltage with Anton's new app. Play Store, named Zero Voltage, company name is Bitshape. I've been testing it, mostly Nexus devices, works great for me.
thats the voltage at the charger, correct?
not the voltage of the cells.
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Diginow dongle owners can read voltage with Anton's new app. Play Store, named Zero Voltage, company name is Bitshape. I've been testing it, mostly Nexus devices, works great for me.
thats the voltage at the charger, correct?
not the voltage of the cells.
That is the voltage of the cells 8) It shows battery voltage, charging amps, charging watts, cell balance and high/low cell temperatures.
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thats the voltage at the charger, correct?
not the voltage of the cells.
Diginow Data Reaper dongle can read the bike system status and that combines with Anton's app to give him a readout of the system voltage. Charging output and battery charging input are coupled they are the same thing, and if charging process ends the voltage settles down within 1Vdc or so.
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Here's what it looks like.
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Here's what it looks like.
Temperatures are temperatures inside the pack, low and high. If you ride fast and then charge fast you can have the contactor open due to over temperature, especially on 2013-2014. Newer bikes don't had the insulating dead air space, I'm told.
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I was considering adding a voltmeter using something like this: (up to 150VDC meter)
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Waterproof-Voltmeter-4-5-150V-Automotive/dp/B01JZ02YBI?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01JZ02YBI (https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Waterproof-Voltmeter-4-5-150V-Automotive/dp/B01JZ02YBI?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01JZ02YBI)
But then I saw this one that can display voltage as well as % charge based on a multiple of 3.2V or 3.7V cells (up to 120V).
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Voltmeter-Electromobile-Waterproof-Lead-acid/dp/B01M8NQZ2Z/ref=pd_bxgy_328_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01M8NQZ2Z&pd_rd_r=KC66ZXE96SAHCNKEGN9V&pd_rd_w=UwZaO&pd_rd_wg=G3PLB&psc=1&refRID=KC66ZXE96SAHCNKEGN9V (https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Voltmeter-Electromobile-Waterproof-Lead-acid/dp/B01M8NQZ2Z/ref=pd_bxgy_328_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01M8NQZ2Z&pd_rd_r=KC66ZXE96SAHCNKEGN9V&pd_rd_w=UwZaO&pd_rd_wg=G3PLB&psc=1&refRID=KC66ZXE96SAHCNKEGN9V)
I wonder if the second meter %charge battery indicator would be useful or just more misinformation?
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CYCLE ANALYST is the best tool.
I'm using this device on all my ebike build since 10 years.
I see that there is a new apps fo the Zero voltage ( Great!) but why are Zero not working to correct the voltage reading error problem on the ZERO apps?
Doc
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CYCLE ANALYST is the best tool.
I'm using this device on all my ebike build since 10 years.
I see that there is a new apps fo the Zero voltage ( Great!) but why are Zero not working to correct the voltage reading error problem on the ZERO apps?
Doc
The problem is not just with the app! My 2014 SR, with fresh firmware, showed 52% charge when I got *loss* of thrust. I proceeded to the closest chargepoint and charged 9.8kwh! It actually reduced SoC during charging for the first charge. I typically see my SoC a bit inaccurate (loss of thrust at 6-10%) but today was ridiculous.
(Doc, you should *come* to Refuel at Laguna Seca next year.)
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Here's what it looks like.
The new version *no longer needs the diginow reaper*. It can get the data by talking bluetooth to the MBB, the same way the Zero App does!
It also connects really fast.