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Title: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 09, 2017, 07:39:07 AM
Hey guys,


I think I found the perfect Alarm Disc Lock for our zeros.


Check out:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YEUZ796/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YEUZ796/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)


It's the Urban UR-10. Only $98 from Spain, not f... China.


And in conjunction the best part of it is that the mount of it fits on the zero with minor belt sander action.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAVNCJ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAVNCJ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
$34.90


Check out how seamless and perfectly it fits on the left side on the pax foot peg mount.
And the alarm is perfect too, since it sends out a warning first to remind you that you forgot it, and if left alone, it stays quiet.
Activation is super simple. You either push the cylinder in twice for alarm activation, or only ones for only locking.
And I am using it on the rear, so simply removing the forks is not an easy option.


This is clearly only protecting "roll offs", but that is one of the most performed way of getting your bike.
With this, they cannot quietly roll it off to where they have a Van or trailer, or simply roll it away for a long stretch anyway.
And yes, they can still put a dolly under the rear wheel, crack the front, or put dollies under both wheels, but than they are organized and probably come with a group and lift it away.

Good thing that our batteries are quiet heavy.

Anyway, I installed it and it feels a bit better now that noone can simply roll it off on a whims notice.



Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: MajorMajor on April 09, 2017, 12:32:04 PM
10 mm isn't enough for such an expensive bike.
I use a 14 mm Xena disc lock with alarm, though I've removed the batteries since it seems to just go off randomly.
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: Fred on April 09, 2017, 01:35:08 PM
I used to have a Xena one, and also had to remove the batteries due to it going off randomly. It worked fine for a few months. Not worth the trouble IMHO.
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 10, 2017, 10:31:06 AM
My point, I read all about the Xenia false alarms and didn't want to deal with it.


You can use the Urban UR-14S 14MM bolt with double locking mechanism
https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Security-motorcycle-Resistant-Reminder/dp/B01N2UC3R3/ref=pd_sbs_263_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N2UC3R3&pd_rd_r=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET&pd_rd_w=Y1oab&pd_rd_wg=FsBYU&psc=1&refRID=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET (https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Security-motorcycle-Resistant-Reminder/dp/B01N2UC3R3/ref=pd_sbs_263_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N2UC3R3&pd_rd_r=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET&pd_rd_w=Y1oab&pd_rd_wg=FsBYU&psc=1&refRID=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET)


or the


Artago 32S 15MM with double locking
https://www.amazon.com/Artago-Motorcycle-Bike-Alarm-Disc/dp/B00HLOPZY4/ref=pd_sbs_263_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00HLOPZY4&pd_rd_r=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET&pd_rd_w=Y1oab&pd_rd_wg=FsBYU&psc=1&refRID=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET (https://www.amazon.com/Artago-Motorcycle-Bike-Alarm-Disc/dp/B00HLOPZY4/ref=pd_sbs_263_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00HLOPZY4&pd_rd_r=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET&pd_rd_w=Y1oab&pd_rd_wg=FsBYU&psc=1&refRID=PZTSGVW2B2DM42ZGQ7ET)


Both are from the same company just marketed as a different line.  They are a bit big for the zeros and expensive.


They claim zero false alarms.


So far, my bike has been parked outside of my workplace in heavy Texas winds and had no fals alarms.




I also love the fact that I don't have to stuff it in a bag with that holder.


I will be adding a u-lock that is sending a text and is registered in a database.
It has a lot of good features


http://www.relock.io/ (http://www.relock.io/)




I wanted to by the large ABUS the detector, it's supposed to be false alarm safe,  it the initial warning is always followed by the actual alarm.
How annoying.




Rider7

Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on April 14, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
That is a handy little bracket. How did you have to use a belt sander?
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 16, 2017, 01:49:34 AM
That is a handy little bracket. How did you have to use a belt sander?


Brian,


I missed taking a picture before I ground it into shape.
If you look at the straight edges of the part here on amazon, you can tell how I had to sand them to make room for the charge plug behind the frame.
Also, you have to shorten the bracket qhite a bit to make room for the motor mount.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAVNCJ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAVNCJ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)


I hope that clarifies it.
It is a bit of sanding, you might be able to do it with an angle grinder too.
Ideally, you would take an endmill on a mill to make the shapes perfect, but oh well.


I really love that I have this lock mounted on the bike now, no fishing in the backpack or anywayere else.
My luggage compartment is already full with tools 'n stuff.


Now some recommended the Xenia and to simply remove the alarm.
That doesn't make sense to me, since you are paying for the alarm, and you want the alarm, but end up having to take it off.
That is less deterrent then.


This Urban UR-10 is affordable, small, yet actually really heavy, and it acts like a full blown alarm which doesn't go off like a stupid dumb device when the user makes a mistake.


Like the pointless car alarm in the 90s :)


Sorry, I know that was more info than you asked for.


Rider7

Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 16, 2017, 01:52:01 AM
Also,
the bracket works for all three:


[size=21px !important]Artago 30X / Urban UR14S / UR10 Alarm Disc Lock - Support Kit for Sport Bikes and Zeros with slight user modification :)[/size][/color]
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on April 17, 2017, 03:46:58 PM
I added a security section to the aftermarket wiki page, thanks. http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Security (http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Security)
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: Justin Andrews on April 18, 2017, 04:06:41 PM
I added a security section to the aftermarket wiki page, thanks. http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Security (http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Security)

I'd avoid relying on disk locks, they don't stop carry off attacks, and (I am deadly serious about this) thieves have been known to unbolt the brake disc rotor, and ride off with the lock in place!

You need a decent chain (19mm+) like the Almax secured to a decent anchor.

Even then, an increasing number of scumbags are starting to go equipped with battery powered grinders...
Not much can stop one of them, even bystanders.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/moment-heroic-bystanders-halt-thieves-bid-to-steal-40k-ducati-superbike-in-broad-daylight-in-soho-a3414021.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/moment-heroic-bystanders-halt-thieves-bid-to-steal-40k-ducati-superbike-in-broad-daylight-in-soho-a3414021.html)

Luckly this one was thwarted, but I've seen other vids where the scum got away with it in broad daylight while bystanders tried to stop them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRwE_gAIkPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRwE_gAIkPA)
For example. Note in this vid not even an immobiliser will stop them, as they use a second bike to push the stolen bike along.
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 20, 2017, 12:36:21 PM
I hear you Justin,


but chaining isn't an option in 99% where I park (no anchor, no pole etc.) and it would literally spoil my experience of the freeedom this bike provid me with. Hopping on and off effortlessly, turn the key and zip away.
I only put the disc lock on when leaving it alone for more than an hour or so.


It does prevent professional opportunistic roll offs.


If a professional really wants a to get it in public, I agree, they most likely will get it, but that is why I have insurance too.


I appreciate the input though.


By the way, the chain isn't such a barrier either against a grinder and it doesn't alarm in most cases.


Unbolting the brake rotor, mhhh... ok, that is why I have the lock on the back wheel, they cannot get it out of the way completely so easily as by temporarily removing the front wheel.


The disclock simply eliminates the steering lock crackers and walk away guys.
The ones that don't come with tools.
The ones with tools will probably get it no matter what.


The alarm disc lock also prevents people from touching it.


Rider7



Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 20, 2017, 12:47:32 PM
Just watched both videos. Brazzen f....ers
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: Seeth on April 21, 2017, 11:39:08 PM
Wow.
I've never needed to lock up my bike before, but I've never had a really good ride, either. I've picked up the brake lock (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A759GW0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A759GW0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)) but watching those scum got my heart racing. Bad enough when I came back to my bike tipped over once. I love the earlier pointed out alarm mount; being able to attach it to the bike and not carry it around is a big thing.

Great set of ideas, thank you!
Title: Re: Perfect Alarm Disc Lock for Zero bikes
Post by: rider7 on April 23, 2017, 07:38:54 AM
Seeth,


I looked at that throttle lock too, but decided against it.
They can simply cut the brake lever and ride with it around the throttle until back in their dungeon.
But, if they don't have tools, it is a good deterrent for spontaneous roll offs.


The really good thing about the warning before th alarm goes off, the other day in the morning, I did forget about the lock and it gently tells you that you are an idiot without waking up the neighbors.
You also don't have to put the reminder cable around your bike every single time you are using the lock, or it gets expensive when you do forget it.


Oh, and yes, being able to mount it on the bike was a big selling point for convenience.
The issue with it not being convenient is that one will stop doing it and that is when it bites you.


Rider7