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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: Justin Andrews on December 20, 2016, 02:30:12 PM
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My Zero 2015 SR "BX65MZJ" has been stolen, I have no illusions that it's not either headed for a container port, or being broken up to sell.
If you spot a "breaker" selling SR2015 parts in the UK, please let me know.
Thanks.
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Wow. Rough news. I assumed that they wouldn't be a particular target for thieves. Maybe as it's as easy to ride as a scooter some kids might have taken it for a joy ride and it'll turn up abandoned somewhere.
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Wow. Rough news. I assumed that they wouldn't be a particular target for thieves. Maybe as it's as easy to ride as a scooter some kids might have taken it for a joy ride and it'll turn up abandoned somewhere.
Dunno, a neighbor spotted a van searching for something the day before. The locks were cut clean off and the ignition barrel removed (I found that lying on my drive)
Speaks to me of a more considered job.
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I'm afraid I have to agree with you then. It's crap, isn't it? I remember finding just the rear wheel of my Ducati 748 chained to a lamp post one morning. I hope your insurance will cover a shiny new 2017.
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I'm afraid I have to agree with you then. It's crap, isn't it? I remember finding just the rear wheel of my Ducati 748 chained to a lamp post one morning. I hope your insurance will cover a shiny new 2017.
Me too...
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I am very sorry for what you are saying and I hope you can find your zero.
Install a gps like this in my zero sr 2014, as it has battery can run up to 7 days. When you turn on motorcycle charge the battery again. I know it's not infallible but I hope it helps if they ever steal it
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Damn, sorry to hear that Justin. I wonder if the thieves will know what to do with an electric bike?
I hope to hear that you've managed to get the 2017 model as a replacement. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!
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Good news:
The Police have just found the bike!
I've not seen it yet, so I don't know what condition it's in.
If the bike is ok, I might use this opportunity to alter its security slightly. Maybe some sort of keyless ignition perhaps.
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Great news. Keyless ignition sounds cool. I've not even got my FXS yet, but might be tempted to try something that works with the NFC tag implanted in my hand.
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Good news:
The Police have just found the bike!
I've not seen it yet, so I don't know what condition it's in.
If the bike is ok, I might use this opportunity to alter its security slightly. Maybe some sort of keyless ignition perhaps.
That is terrific news! Unfortunately rare, at least here in the States. Maybe somebody just took it for a joyride.
Keyless ignition has been discussed, but it would be difficult given that there's no "always on" 12V power on our bikes...I'm sure it could be done if you want to bad enough. You can search for it in the archives.
I've always thought it would be very clever to reverse wire the kill switch, so it says "on" when the bike won't run. Leave it in the "on" position when you park it, and a thief would never figure out that he needs to put it in the "off" position to ride!
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Possibly a side benefit of electric. They ran out of power and couldn't figure out what to do next.
I remember hearing about a 56 Chevrolet being stolen. The people who stole it stopped for gas,
paid for it, then drove off when the thieves couldn't figure out how to put gas in it. The car was
found unharmed a few blocks from the station.
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I'm interested to know what tools were used during the theft and how they went about it. You mentioned the lock core was damaged and discarded, would you be willing to share pictures and facts about the case?
Was the bike powered on to be ridden away?
Was the lock core targeted to defeat the steering column lock and load the bike into another vehicle?
Would a parking camera or location transmitter have allowed more quickly to identify the disturbance to and recovery of the bike?
Would a factory parking brake or locking the kickstand in the down position have been an impediment?
Wish it hadn't of happened to your bike, though I hope to learn something from this.
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What I know...
The locks core was pulled out by driving a screw into it, and then I guess they just yanked it right out. I gather its really not uncommon for this sort of attack on an ignition lock.
The bike was recovered, when, from what I gather, the Police spotted it on the road (all police traffic vehicles are fitted with plate readers connected live to the national database) and gave chase, the suspect abandoned my bike and legged it. Sadly the scum got away.
I think they knew what they were after as they nicked the charge cable off the wall as well.
"Was the bike powered on to be ridden away?"
Unknown, my gut feeling is yes it was.
"Was the lock core targeted to defeat the steering column lock and load the bike into another vehicle?"
Its possible, and was my first thought.
"Would a parking camera or location transmitter have allowed more quickly to identify the disturbance to and recovery of the bike?"
Not in this case no. I'm thinking some fairly loud alarms would have been more useful though.
"Would a factory parking brake or locking the kickstand in the down position have been an impediment?"
Not sure, my gut feeling is thieves would break that too.
The main faults from my POV is:
My bike was visible from the street.
My chain lock was good, but not good enough against bolt cutters.
Both of these will now be addressed.
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"Was the bike powered on to be ridden away?"
Unknown, my gut feeling is yes it was.
>insert loud pipes argument here.<
Download Logs.
It may help timestamp the theft plus provide ride time to recovery event. Might be able to work out some radius information.
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You can see Jim's anti theft idea on his old MX, just skip up to about the 6:50 mark and watch till the end. Glad you got your bike back.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXjyyjAT6CA#)
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I have always thought that a dirty motorcycle cover with a cable lock tying the bottom edges together (to keep the homeless from stealing the cover) was the best deterrent. Out of sight, out of mind. ;)
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"Was the bike powered on to be ridden away?"
Unknown, my gut feeling is yes it was.
>insert loud pipes argument here.<
Download Logs.
It may help timestamp the theft plus provide ride time to recovery event. Might be able to work out some radius information.
Oh yes I fully intend to do this, I have my diginow dongle on stand by.
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I hope you get it back in good condition Justin. I'm surprised this happened because you're quite nicely tucked away. There can't be much traffic passing your house. A lesson for us all. I hope your festivities make up for it over the next couple of weeks.
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A security camera or two is a good thing to have. It is surprising how much is "happening" around my house. From raccoons and other city wild life doing their thing, to bad neighbors, to trucks damaging the property trying to make too tight a turn, to confirming deliveries... Cameras are a good deterrent if visible too, but good to have some concealed ones as well.
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I always wanted to build the security system my grandfather told me about. He wired up a Model T ignition coil to his car's body with a switch hidden under the fender. ZZZZZAPP!
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The best deterrent I ever heard of was a tripwire and a blank shotgun cartridge set off by a mousetrap-like firing pin. The idea was it would make a loud enough noise to frighten the thief and wake you up.
The magazine reviewing it finished with "of course there's nothing actually stopping you replacing the blank with a real cartridge"! Maybe a little too harsh and potentially problematic when you're half asleep heading off to work.
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Yeah, I've seen that idea recommended over at Bike Chat* as well.
(*aka the hive of scum and villany) :D
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I've seen my bike.
I could be worse, but its taken a fair bit of cosmetic damage around the lower fairings. :(
Least it still works.
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Does your insurance cover the damage, also the ignitiondamage?
Mine is not insured for theft, but at home, its behind two locked doors, and when on vacation also two additional locks on the bike. Hopefully that's to hard for those assholes.
The shotgun idea won't work in the netherlands because civillians are not alowed to have any type of gun.
An american once asked me "so can't shoot somebody of your propertie??" Uhhh, no.
It's even worse. If you hit an uninvited guest in your house very very hard, you might end up in jail.
The good thing is, there's almost close to zero gunviolence in my country.
Anyway, your intention is, i suppose, to keep the bike Justin?
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The insurance could cover the damage, but I suspect the excess would make it not worth claiming.
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If theft had been reported to insurance company, you need to make sure that it is completely removed ( make sure to get it in writing ) if you do not wish to follow through.
Several years ago, my Buick Grand National got stolen from work. I contacted police and insurance company. Car was found the next day in an area where thieves took stolen
cars to "cool off". Minimal damage, so, rescinded claim. A few years later, I was getting a quote from a different company and took a hit because of previous claim. I told
them that there was nothing paid out as I had rescinded the claim. I was told that since the claim had been made, it was still on the record, regardless of lack of payment.
I don't know about where YOU are, but in U.S., they will do anything possible to ding the consumer.
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Yep, I think that's universal. It's kind of you to share your story KrazyEd, I wouldn't have thought to check if it happened to me.
I don't suppose the police tried to lift any prints from the bike? Probably too much effort for them unless it's a very serious crime or the bike belonged to one of their mates.
It might be worth having a word with a friendly bike shop and getting them to give it the once over. There's a police report that mentions damage etc. It could be that there's a problem with the frame that would make it a write off. If you can swallow making a claim, there might still be chance to get a shiny new 2017 model out of this situation. Just a thought. In that case, it could also be worth buying the bike off the insurance company and keeping the parts. Lots of fun projects to be had with the battery, motor etc.
Or just keep life simple and treat yourself to some more panels and a paint job. Something creative and medieval perhaps? That could be fun.
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My experience is you don't WANT your vehicle parked "out of sight." That just means no one will see the thieves trying to steal it. Park it in plain sight in a heavily (pedestrian) trafficked area to discourage theft. If there are too many witnesses, thieves are less likely to make the attempt.
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My experience is you don't WANT your vehicle parked "out of sight." That just means no one will see the thieves trying to steal it. Park it in plain sight in a heavily (pedestrian) trafficked area to discourage theft. If there are too many witnesses, thieves are less likely to make the attempt.
Yeah, if there are people around, the thief doesn't know they aren't the owner or know the owner. Thieves do not want witnesses.
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My experience is you don't WANT your vehicle parked "out of sight." That just means no one will see the thieves trying to steal it. Park it in plain sight in a heavily (pedestrian) trafficked area to discourage theft. If there are too many witnesses, thieves are less likely to make the attempt.
Yeah, if there are people around, the thief doesn't know they aren't the owner or know the owner. Thieves do not want witnesses.
In theory anyway... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96QM-lzLM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96QM-lzLM8)
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My experience is you don't WANT your vehicle parked "out of sight." That just means no one will see the thieves trying to steal it. Park it in plain sight in a heavily (pedestrian) trafficked area to discourage theft. If there are too many witnesses, thieves are less likely to make the attempt.
nope.
out of sight, they can steal it easily.
in heavily trafficked areas, they're just another person, walk up like you own it and steal it easily.
thieves suck.
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Maybe we could have a thread called:
To all new Zero "owners" that stole the bike
As they will probably search on the internet to get info and end out here....
Doc
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Maybe we could have a thread called:
To all new Zero "owners" that stole the bike
As they will probably search on the internet to get info and end out here....
Doc
The good news (Page 1) was my bike was recovered and returned to me, while the plastics were badly damaged and the handlebars bent, the bike was otherwise alright.
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> in heavily trafficked areas, they're just another person, walk up like you own it and steal it easily. thieves suck.
Well, yeah, if they can do it without looking suspicious. I'd certainly notice and call police if someone walked up to a bike as if they owned it and then proceeded to break the steering lock or mess with the wires to the ignition.