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Title: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on September 28, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
Hi folks,

I just bought this beauty 3 weeks ago. Now it makes a very lot of fun to commute every day.
Here are some first pics of the toy.
 ;D
new Zero DSR on trailer, blue tacho, speedometer, Germany, NRW, electric motorcycle, bike
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 28, 2016, 03:38:30 PM
First ride ....
Watertight toolbox (750 ccm) installed in the hole of the rear swing arm.
Content:
    10 mm Combination Wrench
    13 mm Combination Wrench
    8" Adjustable Wrench
    Hex Key - Black, Long, 3 mm
    Hex Key - Black, Long, 4 mm
    Hex Key - Black, Long, 6 mm
    Hex Key - Black, Long, 8 mm
    T25 Torx Key (L Style)
    T45 Torx Key (Bit) + Driver
    6-in-1 Screwdriver
    5 X 6" Black Cable Ties
    3 feet 19-Gauge Mechanics Wire
    Shop Towel
    Tire Pressure Gauge
Raiffeisenturm, Raiffeisen tower, sight seeing, geocache, Zero DSR, Germany NRW, E-Bike
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 28, 2016, 03:40:06 PM
Second ride ...

Liebherr 974, excavator, river Rhein, Germany
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 28, 2016, 03:40:47 PM
TPMS and Navi (iPhone SE) installed;

Night view  :)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on September 28, 2016, 10:43:08 PM
Very nice mods! Can you show or link what the toolbox is?
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 29, 2016, 01:22:46 AM
Of course.
It's a standard water bottle (plastic) normally used for mountain bikes and so on.
You have to try some different types because the diameter varies +/- some millimeters.
The bottle should fit really tight - you don't want to loose it, do you?  ;)
This one was about 10,- bugs.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 29, 2016, 01:23:35 AM
Toolbox opened ...
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 29, 2016, 01:24:26 AM
and filled with tools ...
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: Shadow on September 29, 2016, 06:58:27 AM
It's a standard water bottle...

** APPLAUSE AND PRAISE **   This is the obvious answer. You are the winner.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 29, 2016, 12:56:56 PM
Thanks  :)
It's a pleasure ...
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 30, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
Today: First real heavy offroad tour. Everything fine.   8)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on September 30, 2016, 07:21:57 AM
Nice trick! I guess I can take a caliper measurement or something to save people some time to do this again.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on September 30, 2016, 04:58:07 PM
I hope you can.
But it's not that easy -> the most variants of waterbottles don't fit. Additionally / Unfortunally these bottles aren't perfectly in a cylindric shape and so you still have to use trial and error method to find a matching one ;D

So - good luck.

Greetings from Germany
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on September 30, 2016, 08:22:39 PM
Seems like 70mm-ish max diameter from a quick reading, but yes it does seem like a trial and error issue for the moment.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 03, 2016, 06:30:11 PM
The real issue seems to find a bottle with an easy to handel screw cap.
Here's a link to the used model "Camelbak Podium Big Chill":
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Camelbak-Trinkflasche-Podium-Big-Chill-750-ml-Race-Edition-/361446294459?hash=item5427e0c3bb:g:9aUAAOSwAKxWaCW~ (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Camelbak-Trinkflasche-Podium-Big-Chill-750-ml-Race-Edition-/361446294459?hash=item5427e0c3bb:g:9aUAAOSwAKxWaCW~)

This one fits really tight, maybe a little bit too much - but better than too loose.

At our local bike store it was half the price, however, maybe a bargain - but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 03, 2016, 07:29:03 PM
After a month of driving I'd like to share my logfile with all EV- and DSR-interested people.
Here you go ....

Logfile   
Enhancements/Changes:   
   
01-Sep-16   Fixated the "loose" break pipe and ABS cable with a rubber band; reason: its disturbing and struggling with the ignition key and the key band
02-Sep-16   registration; first tour
02-Sep-16   Dash settings adjusted to show "range" in display section A
03-Sep-16   gone to a friend to help that day; first night tour because it was really warm weather at night
04-Sep-16   today it's raining almost the whole day; first evening tour after it stops raining
05-Sep-16   first washing by hand and cleaning with compressed air
06-Sep-16   first attempt to determine the range left after charge level of 0%; range left nearly 10 km; no loss of power after range gone down to 0 km
07-Sep-16   tool box installed in the hole of the rear swing arm
08-Sep-16   electric connectors checked for installation of accessory parts
09-Sep-16   SAE-72 connector ordered; 12V accessory socket kit ordered
10-Sep-16   display for air temperature and accessory socket voltage ordered
14-Sep-16   tire pressure and tire temperature control ordered; CES award winning TPMS
15-Sep-16   setup new parking place (another garage) with automatic garage door
16-Sep-16   new garage door drive control installed; Audi homelink remote control connected
17-Sep-16   Winter tires, decision: original mounted Pirelli MT 60
18-Sep-16   Grand tour to the river Rhein; total 187 km; ODO nearly 3.000 km; Backpack fixed
19-Sep-16   2-finger winter gloves bought; very warm - not usable these days ;-)
20-Sep-16   TPMS and 12 Volt Acc plug mounted
23-Sep-16   Width measured: handlebar: 840mm; mirrors outside (overall width): 940mm
30-Sep-16   First real offroad tour; very funny how far you can go in the mud :-)
01-Oct-16   Tire pressure and TPMS adjusted
02-Oct-16   GoPro 5 Session + handlebar mount ordered for using as HQ-dashcam ...
03-Oct-16   iPhone Zero App updated, now working again with iOS10; custom mode adjusted
.
.
to be continued
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on October 03, 2016, 09:56:18 PM
Thanks for the journal! What TPMS do you use?
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 03, 2016, 10:39:28 PM
The Steelmate TP90 system. Nice is the tire temperature feature.
Just today the pressure warning worked well. While adjusting the pressure to the right setting and a test driving a loud beep and a red blinking gaved warning of a too low front tire pressure.
The reason was a faulty manometer pistol. After testing a new one the old one seems to be useless for accurate measurement - it always displayed a pressure of 0.5 bar too low and so the TPMS alarm was successfully triggered.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 05, 2016, 11:46:13 PM
GoPro Cam arrived and installed.
 :D ;D

GoPro 5 Session, handlebar mounted
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 05, 2016, 11:46:54 PM
A 16 GB micro SD card seems to provide capture capability in 1080p for 1 hour.
Enough for daily commuting and using it as a dash cam.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 05, 2016, 11:48:02 PM
Handlebar mount is very clever designed - a lot of possibilities for every angle needed.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: mrwilsn on October 06, 2016, 04:48:17 AM
Is audio usable or do you hear too much wind noise?

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 06, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
I'm not driven yet. Today it's got 4° Celsius - so I took the Audi.
But I will report. The youtube vids with a GoPro and a DSR intend that noise is no problem at all.
We will see ...
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 07, 2016, 10:33:40 PM
After two days of commuting my impressions of the video and the audio quality are very good.
But I'll need a bigger memory card. Although the 16 GB version records nearly one hour in 1920x1080 or 1920x1440 at 48 fps I'll look for a much bigger one the next days.
Then a whole day of commuting can be recorded in 1080p.
But I'm very happy at the moment ;D ;D
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 09, 2016, 07:43:54 PM
5.000 km reached. Sunny sunday, nice to drive ...

Zero DSR, Bridge, river Sieg, Germany
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 17, 2016, 03:01:13 AM
Another sunny sunday in Germany :-)

Zero DSR, Bridge, river Sieg, Herchen, school, football, summer, Germany
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 17, 2016, 01:03:09 PM
Very nice day !
 :)

Phantom Merten, Castle Merten, NRW, Germany
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: Richard230 on October 17, 2016, 08:44:53 PM
Well, I have to admit everything sure looks nice and green.   :)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 17, 2016, 09:11:24 PM
Jepp,

and I have to tell yet another very amazing thing about the DSR:

For getting to the location shown in the last pic I had to climb a very steep ascent, probably only passable for 4-wheeled driven vehicles or motocross bikes. I really thought the engine would die every moment and I'm getting stucked. But nothing like this happened - The DSR went further and further without any signs of loosing power.
Never needing to shift a gear and having full power at every rev is mindblowing in offroad situations. I'm sooo happy ...  :D  8)  ::)  :)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 18, 2016, 12:29:35 AM
I'll try this again and measure the angle and distance to climb this time and let you know ...
 :)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: ElectricZen on October 18, 2016, 02:00:25 AM
Very nice and congratulations on the DSR.  I love mine!  It really is an off-road king.  Love the mods! 

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Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 20, 2016, 12:58:31 AM
Hi again,

today I measured the lenght and the angle of the mentioned ascend:
about 22° / 40.4% ; 200 meters at all - nearly impossible under wet conditions but no problem with the DSR when it's dry ...

climbing, Zero DSR, Kendy Engelke, Germany, black, electric, electro, green, energy
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 23, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
Another nice sunday to drive electric ...  :) :)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 26, 2016, 01:15:41 AM
Good news in Germany:

the tax exemption for electric vehicles was just extended from 5 years to 10 years.

So, let's raise a glass or two to that ;D 🍻
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on October 27, 2016, 10:36:20 PM
Did you know that:

https://youtu.be/OBmn60rE03o (https://youtu.be/OBmn60rE03o)

I didn't know exactly how easy the Zero's are build up.
Astonishing ...  :)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: vfx on November 21, 2016, 03:23:23 AM
Today I installed the original rain guard (additional rear fender).
I'll try to make some pics tomorrow at daylight.
The whole bike looks better with this addon from behind.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: rider7 on December 25, 2016, 08:13:31 AM
TPMS and Navi (iPhone SE) installed;

Night view  :)

Hi VFX,
What's the other round indicator that shows 13.5 /17 ?

And can you post a link of the TPMS, or tell us the make and model?

Nice setup.

rider7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: vfx on December 26, 2016, 12:03:08 AM
Hello,

the TPMS manufacturer is Steelmate, the model is TP-90:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steelmate-DIY-TP-90-LED-TPMS-Motorrad-Reifendruckkontrollsystem-mit-2-Sensoren-/201659092604?hash=item2ef3d18e7c:g:Gc0AAOSw8oFXyV1G (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steelmate-DIY-TP-90-LED-TPMS-Motorrad-Reifendruckkontrollsystem-mit-2-Sensoren-/201659092604?hash=item2ef3d18e7c:g:Gc0AAOSw8oFXyV1G)

The other indicators are air temperature (red) and voltage display built into an USB power plug (to charge the iPhone and use it as navigation system) like this:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Auto-12-24V-Digital-Voltmeter-und-Thermometer-Zigarettenanzunder-USB-Ladegerat-/282098610251?hash=item41ae63304b:g:Y-oAAOSwImRYFvUm (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Auto-12-24V-Digital-Voltmeter-und-Thermometer-Zigarettenanzunder-USB-Ladegerat-/282098610251?hash=item41ae63304b:g:Y-oAAOSwImRYFvUm)

Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: rider7 on December 30, 2016, 11:10:11 AM
Hello,

the TPMS manufacturer is Steelmate, the model is TP-90:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steelmate-DIY-TP-90-LED-TPMS-Motorrad-Reifendruckkontrollsystem-mit-2-Sensoren-/201659092604?hash=item2ef3d18e7c:g:Gc0AAOSw8oFXyV1G (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steelmate-DIY-TP-90-LED-TPMS-Motorrad-Reifendruckkontrollsystem-mit-2-Sensoren-/201659092604?hash=item2ef3d18e7c:g:Gc0AAOSw8oFXyV1G)


The other indicators are air temperature (red) and voltage display built into an USB power plug (to charge the iPhone and use it as navigation system) like this:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Auto-12-24V-Digital-Voltmeter-und-Thermometer-Zigarettenanzunder-USB-Ladegerat-/282098610251?hash=item41ae63304b:g:Y-oAAOSwImRYFvUm (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Auto-12-24V-Digital-Voltmeter-und-Thermometer-Zigarettenanzunder-USB-Ladegerat-/282098610251?hash=item41ae63304b:g:Y-oAAOSwImRYFvUm)


Vfx,
Thanks for the links.
I found it after all, the TPMS that is.

The other indicator makes sense too.

I'll get my brand new DSR in about 2 weeks. Can't wait.
I will get this or maybe another TPMS.
People say that you cannot have different warning thresholds for front and rear on this one.

I found this one that looks good too:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GGMDBFG/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_20?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A33TCMZEAWOM9U (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GGMDBFG/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_20?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A33TCMZEAWOM9U)


I'll replicate your tool box in swing arm. Very good idea.

Check out these cases, I saw them mounted on a bike and they are so low profile that it's as if you have nothing on the bike yet good storage for essentials.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003JH7ZJK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003JH7ZJK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

driver7

By the way, I am German from Duesseldorf. Lived in the US for 20 years.
How is the acceptance of electrical bikes in Germany ?


Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: vfx on December 31, 2016, 12:13:37 AM
Well, I regularly "watch" statistics of the "Kraftfahrt Bundesamt" regarding new registrations of electric motorcycles at all and the numbers of registring Zero's in detail.

Here's a link:
http://www.kba.de/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/Neuzulassungen/Umwelt/umwelt_node.html (http://www.kba.de/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/Neuzulassungen/Umwelt/umwelt_node.html)

In 2015 there were approximately only 100 new Zero's registrated in Germany - after all.
But - logically - numbers are raising ...
I'll make a study of the progress and will report this.

Thanks for getting to know you :-)

Greets from NRW / Germany.

KE
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: vfx on December 31, 2016, 03:07:36 AM
Additional post:

For my purpose the thresholds of 1.70 bar are both ideal -> with that pressure you can go easly another 100 miles (if the pressure isn't descending further) and safety is ensured too.
I prefere a little lower air pressure for more grip - even in winter conditions.
Thats why this TPMS fits my personal needs very well.
And the alarm sound is quite good.

I just bought a much more mobile air compressor than my old one.
The new one weighs under 10 kg and with a 6 litre tank volume it's always enough for adjusting car or bike tire pressure. So from now on I always check my bike BEFORE driving after it has been unused for a while.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/201323922414?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.de/itm/201323922414?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: rider7 on December 31, 2016, 01:58:15 PM
Additional post:

For my purpose the thresholds of 1.70 bar are both ideal -> with that pressure you can go easly another 100 miles (if the pressure isn't descending further) and safety is ensured too.
I prefere a little lower air pressure for more grip - even in winter conditions.
Thats why this TPMS fits my personal needs very well.
And the alarm sound is quite good.

I just bought a much more mobile air compressor than my old one.
The new one weighs under 10 kg and with a 6 litre tank volume it's always enough for adjusting car or bike tire pressure. So from now on I always check my bike BEFORE driving after it has been unused for a while.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/201323922414?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.de/itm/201323922414?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)




Hi KE,

Thanks for the link to the Kraftfahrt Bundesamt.
I had no idea that they make this information public.

I appreciate your posts about the stuff you put on your bike.
I seriously had no idea that there are TPMS for bikes out there.
I am a bit allergic to vehicle automation, since it makes us people even more stupid and complacent.
But.... after 32 years of riding and also maintaining my bikes and cars maybe I deserve a bit of the convenience of seeing the tire pressure at a glace.
It is safer that is for sure too.
I'll buy the pressure system as soon as I receive my bike in about two weeks from now.

Check out the video link on this webpage about the PV market.
http://thesolarinstitute.org/solar-power/ (http://thesolarinstitute.org/solar-power/)
It is an old report, but still informative.
I had no idea that Germany is such a leader in PV. Well, maybe not anymore, since this report was from just after 2000 I think.

I have a similar small compressor for tires etc.
I don't know if you know this, but the US is retarded when it comes to one of the most important safety aspects of motor vehicles.
Nationwide, gas stations don't offer air for free anymore, instead, they contracted air out to companies that set up air coin and card air machines.

They are mostly broken, so I see at least one or two cars in front of me every day with low tire pressure.
It's already hard enought to get car drivers to check their tire pressure, but it became evern harder now that most air machines are still coin only machines, and who nowadays has still coins in their pockets.
It is so aggravating that I wanted to write the authorities, but I am tired to fight stupidity in our society.

The one good thing though, most modern cars come with TPMS now.
I do believe that an early adoption of TPSMs would have prevented more traffic fatalities than air bags, since they would have prevented roll overs due to blown tires in the first place.
But that is just my humble opinion.

But I digressed..... 

Take care and I'll see you around and all of you here in the forum.

Thanks for all your input and sharing.

Rider7 (Oliver)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on December 31, 2016, 05:27:53 PM
I'm glad that my car has already TPMS although it's nearly 10 years old.
In Germany TPMS for new cars is mandatory since 3 years.
Even at long rides driven with a loaded trailer a TPMS is that safety feature.
I don't wanna miss it.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Fred on December 31, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
TPMS on a car makes some sense, but on a bike? Can you not tell when the tyre pressure isn't right? I find even 2-3 PSI makes an immediately noticeable difference to the handling - especially on the front. It just feels wrong way before it actually has an effect on safety or handling.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on January 01, 2017, 12:30:48 AM
TPMS on a car makes some sense, but on a bike? Can you not tell when the tyre pressure isn't right? I find even 2-3 PSI makes an immediately noticeable difference to the handling - especially on the front. It just feels wrong way before it actually has an effect on safety or handling.

Fred,

I think you are right, but... what I am looking forward to is not having to ride away from my garage just to find out after a 0.4 miles or so that I need to go back and refill my tires.
I am too lazy to check my tire pressure before each and every ride. But I agree, although I must admit that 2-3 psi I cannot feel. I can feel 5-10 only and that after 32 years of riding, shame on me I guess. 32 years with only one crash (I was overlooked by a u-turning car) though, that counts for something :)

Oh well, that brings up the question.... crap, I think the tires need to spin first for the system to pick up on that pressure. I never understood why that is, ok, you got me, I'd have to ride back then as well to refill.

Oliver
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Fred on January 01, 2017, 12:34:50 AM
That's a fair point. I tend to do short journeys frequently (which particularly suits electric over ICE) so can tolerate it on one journey and sort it when I'm home.

The tyres probably need to spin because it powers down when the bike isn't moving. Maybe rolling it a short distance would be enough.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on January 02, 2017, 06:59:45 AM
ah.... never thought a about it, it does need power and need to wake up from sleep I guess.

Luckily the investment isn't hundreds of dollars, so I'll risk it and see how I like it.

O
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on January 03, 2017, 01:01:47 AM
That's the right way!  ;D
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on February 23, 2017, 02:52:10 AM
Hey guys,

did somebody noticed the improvement regarding the front brake pipe and cable way of the DSR model year 2017?
I'll try to figure out if it's possible to "upgrade" the older model years to this much better solution and will report ...

Greetings from good old Germany  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on February 23, 2017, 08:43:36 AM
Hey guys,

did somebody noticed the improvement regarding the front brake pipe and cable way of the DSR model year 2017?
I'll try to figure out if it's possible to "upgrade" the older model years to this much better solution and will report ...

Greetings from good old Germany  ;D  ;)

vfx,

It was such a relief for me to see that
I didn't notice it in the product pictures of the 2017 line up, so when I got the bike, I was very pleasantly surprised.
They literally just curved it around and stuffed it under the console.
Darn, I didnt really take the opportunity to look a bit more in detail when I installed my 12V accessory socket.
Good luck in folding it in there. I think it makes a huge difference.
You might have to install a longer brake line to be able to get big enough radiii in there.

I am curious how it works out on yours.


Rider7


Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Shadow on February 23, 2017, 09:03:00 AM
+1 Please somebody with a 2017 take lots of clear pictures how the front brake lines are routed.  I am happy to do the how-to for my 2016 DSR if I know what to try?
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Lenny on February 23, 2017, 11:39:20 PM
Hey guys,

did somebody noticed the improvement regarding the front brake pipe and cable way of the DSR model year 2017?
I'll try to figure out if it's possible to "upgrade" the older model years to this much better solution and will report ...

Greetings from good old Germany  ;D  ;)

As far as I know they actually already changed it during 2016, so a few of the latest 2016 models already have the improved wiring. I'm nearly 100% sure that someone here in this forum already did change the wiring on his 2016 model, but I can't remember who it was and where I saw it. I want to do that as well, so I might figure out a way to do it once I have a little more free time.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on February 24, 2017, 01:18:00 AM
Another question: I recently found this nice vid of manufacturing a Zero motorcycle.  :)

https://youtu.be/OBmn60rE03o (https://youtu.be/OBmn60rE03o)

Unfortunately this video version in youtube is far away from full hd resolution and my eyes hurt while looking it  ;D

Does somebody know if this clip is available somewhere in better quality?

Thanks in advance ...

VFX
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on February 24, 2017, 01:26:40 AM
It seems to be an episode from "How its made" S22E9 or S15E9 - I'm not sure.
But getting access to any US streaming service or TV offer (over the internet) isn't that easy from Germany :(

I try to get a subscribtion for original Discovery channel online (GO), but thats even more challenging if you don't have an registered adress in the US. F***

How ever ... I'll find it  8)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on February 24, 2017, 10:38:53 AM
I will look for a higher quality version myself too.

I promise to take picture next time I have the front apart, but I am almost sure that someone will beat me to it.

I am just not fond of taking things apart when the bike has less than 600 miles, one of the reasons why I am such a fan of the zeros is not having the effin, constant regular maintenance.

I still need to put a chevy motor together and a dirt bike carb and rebuild my Suzuki top end and carbs.... build a back yard fence... ahhh..  somehow I grew out of that constant maintenance and this constant must have to do all those things.
Maybe I am simply getting old, since I used to enjoy this....

Zero, I love you. You simply sit there, wait until needed, never say anything, simply are doing what you are built for.
Fast, quiet almost maintenance free joy  ;D

Rider7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Fred on February 24, 2017, 03:00:07 PM
I'm not sure that you can say something is maintenance free with any confidence after only 600 miles. I've had a Ducati that was still maintenance free at that point! ;-)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on February 24, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
I'm just at 6.000 km and still maintenance free.
And I'm even free from looking after the tire pressure thanks to the TPMS.

It's really a dream! I love my Zero and all the people who build those bikes too.

Thank you!

VFX
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Fred on February 27, 2017, 12:25:52 AM
I finally got my FXS yesterday :-) although not allowed to ride it on the road until 1st March due to the registration :-(. Already did a little maintenance as the belt tension was off the scale from the factory. (Triple checked that I was using the gauge properly and it only needed 1/3 rotation on the adjusters to get it right.)

I do agree that Zeros are as near as you'll get to "maintenance free".
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on February 27, 2017, 02:52:04 AM
Congratulations to your Zero!
Have fun with the bike and keep it kalm.

Today I got a lot of experience while driving.
But the conclusion is simple: Finally the DSR saved my life for the first time.
I started to pass the two cars ahead (driving much slower than allowed) and suddenly the car next in front of me started overtaking too - simply ignoring me! Because of the torque of the DSR (I got 80% battery power left) I was able to accelerate that much faster that the overtaking car doesn't hit me! I hate it, when traffic participant just ignore their environment!
But luckly I was fast enough to "escape", but it was damn close ...

Thank you DSR - at those speed it would have been very serious to get hit by a car.

Never the less it was a great tour today.
And the forum is back again 😊

So good night from germany.

VFX
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on February 28, 2017, 08:49:16 AM
Hahahah..... you're right Fred....touché, at 600 miles everything is still maintence free, although you already accumulated 600 miles worth of f.... maintence....  I suppose.

But..... unless I have a very unlikely total melt down of components, I am fairly certain I'll have the most maintenance free vehicle possible for now.
I am coming up to 1000 soon here and will measure the belt tension again.

What's ironic is that I finally have pretty much any tool you need to properly service ICE cars and bikes, and now dumbass me gets extraordinarily tired of doing that type of work.
I never even thought about it, but riding and I mean everyday and especially for more than 30-50 miles a day is actually rather maintence intense compared to a car.
It gets soooooooo boring having to adjust chain tension for the 50th million times.
Lubing, valves, oil, filters, clutch...blah...blah....
Zero, you are the answer to my prayers. Although now I am just about to complain about having to still check tire pressure, still haven't installed TPMS.

Anyway, I feel like taking the front apart this weekend after all and I'll take pictures for all pre cable tuck riders here.

Hey, VFX....... don't be mad.... the guy must have not seen you in an honest mistake in his dead spot, don't you think?
Anyway, yes, the Zero with its instant zippiness.... and regen braking, it's like you can literally ride instantaneously into any open spot or fall back with barely any braking and get away from being flattened by anyone at anytime with minimal effort

No down shifting and such, although my big 1200 had the torque to push forward pretty instantaneously too, but not like the zero.

Oh, yesterday, a bad ass corvette (I don't really like Corvettes, but this one was not too flashy and had what sounded like a large racing engine in it) was nervously driving through a turn right in front of me and I thought I'd silently zip around that guy, but oh boy, he opened up and there went the zero to simply being a moped.
I waved at him and gave him a thumbs up.
He didn't know though that I can beat him from at least 0-45 I guess...hahahah.
I so am not a street racer... I think it's primitive, but I don't blame the guy seeing a dragon fly zipping past him for a moment with that kind of grunt under his ass, I probably would have not been able to resist either.

So that is the 2020 Zero DSR then with 170 hp.

Rider7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 01, 2017, 12:05:34 AM
... and/or with 200 Nm of torque.  ;D

Today at the way back to home it starts to snow and although I'm not religious I thought "Ooooh Jesus Christ ...".

Can someone bring the summer please. And bring it now  8)  :D

I'm sorry DSR ... it was not deliberately.
But I gave her a washing and parked her inside and warm nearby the heating installation so she should be fine.  ;D

greets
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 01, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
... and/or with 200 Nm of torque.  ;D

Today at the way back to home it starts to snow and although I'm not religious I thought "Ooooh Jesus Christ ...".

Can someone bring the summer please. And bring it now  8)  :D

I'm sorry DSR ... it was not deliberately.
But I gave her a washing and parked her inside and warm nearby the heating installation so she should be fine.  ;D

greets

200 Nm, makes my dentist money, since it'll pull my fillings  :D

Oh holy crap..... I forgot about how narly my winters were back in Germany.
I once could not keep on going anymore auf der Autobahn, I was on an Yamaha XT-600 on my way from München to Düsseldorf at night (1,000 km approximately)
because ice snow, like really hard ice flakes were literally baking me.
My entire bike and my body and helmet were completely covered in a thick layer of icy snow flakes. It was weighing me down.
I felt like I was in Russia.

That was the only time I had to give up. I simply could not take the temperature anymore because the layer of heavy wet sleet cradled my entire front of my stupid body.

My limbs began to literally freeze off my body, besides that i could see anything anymore,  but that was almost normal.
All you had to do is stay between the large white embankments and hope that you don't miss someone in your path.... ha hahahah....

You are hardcore VFX !
You really get to become delicate on that zero throttle I suppose.

Good deed to offer your zero a place in the warmth :)

I was only caught in ice rain here in Austin once three years ago on the freeway.
I tried to ride 25 miles home.
Then visor got coated with a thick layer of ice, opened the visor, eyes and nose got coated with a thick layer of ice, closed it again, visor and eyes and nose coated, visibility was pretty much inwards back into my brain, which looked like a ball of stupid spaghetti on ice cream.

My front wheel (Suzuki GS-500) looked like it had a thick clear aerodynamic fairing made of ice.
My instruments where completely loaded up with a thick layer of clear ice.
It was one of those days where someone could have suggested that riding on the freeway with any type of vehicle is not recommended.
I had to turn off the freeway and seek shelter in an HEB (supermarket chain here in Texas).
I went to the bathroom and thawed out my hands, it was so painful that I had to kneel down, since I got nauseous.  But my knees were so frozen that I could barely kneel.....

I could drive a car through conditions like that?
Never, all the cars by the way we're actually sliding off the freeway without even driving.
I had the advantage, two whelels, two sliding feet, and a grin on my face, which became permanent all the way into the bathroom of HEB  ;D

I miss riding in Germany. Frozen balls in the winter, but 140 miles per hour and legal in the summer :)

Keep on riding VFX my fellow German Zeroist :)

Rider7

Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 01, 2017, 09:01:37 AM
Thanks for keeping me up  ;D.

But I have to admit and to tell you that the Bosch Heat Jacket https://www.boschtools.com/ca/en/boschtools-ocs/workwear-psj120m-48636-p/ (https://www.boschtools.com/ca/en/boschtools-ocs/workwear-psj120m-48636-p/)
under my Bike Jacket, my new Pinlock Visor from Schuberth and the Extreme Winter Gloves from Polo made that all possible and safe!
I don't wanna hurt myself or someone else but it's tough indeed.

What's the phrase in English for "Nur die Harten kommen in den Garten" again?  8) :P

cu
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 01, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
Ahhhhhhh..... VFX,


You are a "Warmduscher" after all...ahhahahah


Only the hard get into the garden doesn't work in English I suppose... hahahahah..


Well, I must say that while I still lived in Germany, that the pinlock visor was the best piece of equipment I have ever had. Never had fogged up visors.
I haven't installed one here, since those couple of cold days are somewhat illusive.


I never tried an electric jacket. That is startreck future stuff:)


I must say that I have only felt cold on my body three or four times in 32 years of riding.
It's just the stupid fingers that fall off and are hard to find then.
And the frozen yaw and eyeballs.


I usually when riding more than 10 miles when it's down to 0 Celsius, I alternate holding my hands on the engine block.....
mhhhh no more on the zero.... but well, I will try a future jacket if riding the zero in zero :)


I am almost ashamed to say that I am also determined to keep my electric lady dry forever.
I simply cannot see myself sitting there a whole afternoon with q-tips or rag and screwdriver to clean those cooling rips on motor and controller....


So I guess I am the warmdusher now.


I did buy an old Chevy truck 1974, and darn it, what i do good for the environment with the zero all year, goes kaput with one startup of this 350 V8:)


:)



Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 02, 2017, 01:22:58 AM
Yeah - heating jackets, headup display helmets (hopefully coming soon), bending light, blind spot detection and warning systems, non ICE motorbikes -> all that's Star Trek and scifi stuff! Witches' brew too, of course.  :P

But everytime I ride the DSR I feel like Tom Cruise with his electric motorbike in "Oblivion", one of my favorite movies  ;D

and I'll go on ...
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 03, 2017, 09:02:40 PM
Hey friends!
Did somebody noticed that the MY 2017 is declared to have 157 Nm of torque in the US, but if you switch the language of zeromotorcycles.com to German MY 2017 seems to be as 146 Nm of torque. What may be the reason of that behaviour?
I know that MY17 has a lot of improvements like 3 mm wider belt, 115 more Amp controller (775A) and so on.

But 157 Nm are bad ass ...

 :D
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Fred on March 03, 2017, 10:36:53 PM
Same power and torque, different criteria for measuring it.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 03, 2017, 11:51:40 PM
Thanks, I'm a little bit dumb sometimes ...

That has to be the explanation.  :) :)

Why they do this? Nm should be Nm and especially Nm max should be Nm max.
And it shouldn't depend on the country you live in.  >:(

However, it seems that they change the title of the unit at the english version:
2017 it is "peak torque" and 2016 it was "max torque" and values are 157 / 144.
In the German version its the same description every year and values are 146 / 144.

A little bit confusing I think.
And acceleration values are dropped for 2017 at all  ;D

Maybe I think too much about it.

 ;D 8) ;)
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 04, 2017, 12:32:24 AM
I just watched a video https://youtu.be/s5upuKopL3U (https://youtu.be/s5upuKopL3U) at youtube and I think the peak torque of 157 Nm of model year 2017 is really realistic. The new 775 Amp controller can easly deliver the needed current to reach that power level - for a short time. Then the temperature problem should be the reason to throttle down a bit.

I guess I'll have to clarify that at my local dealer with a test ride of the MY17.  ;D
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 04, 2017, 01:36:12 PM
I just watched a video https://youtu.be/s5upuKopL3U (https://youtu.be/s5upuKopL3U) at youtube and I think the peak torque of 157 Nm of model year 2017 is really realistic. The new 775 Amp controller can easly deliver the needed current to reach that power level - for a short time. Then the temperature problem should be the reason to throttle down a bit.

I guess I'll have to clarify that at my local dealer with a test ride of the MY17.  ;D


VFX, thanks for this link, it is rare to see representation of the Zero company online and get a feeling for their company, besides knowing that they produce amazing vehicles.


Rider7

Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on March 04, 2017, 11:29:16 PM
It started to getting warmer in Germany today. So I had to ride a little bit :)

Today I reached a milage of 7,000 km. At that point you should make a service (regarding to the owners manual). But is this really necessary? What is to do at this service?
My dealer meant that a service is only necessary once a year or so because it's nearly maintenance free he said.

Thanks for tips.

 ;D
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: rider7 on March 05, 2017, 09:57:31 AM
It started to getting warmer in Germany today. So I had to ride a little bit :)

Today I reached a milage of 7,000 km. At that point you should make a service (regarding to the owners manual). But is this really necessary? What is to do at this service?
My dealer meant that a service is only necessary once a year or so because it's nearly maintenance free he said.

Thanks for tips.

 ;D


VFX,


I cannot think of anything but visual belt check and tension check with the cricket.
Other than that, just a visual check of all assemblies.
I am certain that they used good thread locking devices like lock washers etc. on all motor mounts, brake calipers etc.


Hey, by the way, nice little micro website you are running.
I like it.


Your dealer made a great video.
One of the first videos where you can see but not hear at all (because of the distance of the vantage point) how the zero moves along a country road.


I am glad that the Germans love the concept and buy this bike.


Rider7



Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: Lenny on March 05, 2017, 01:46:17 PM
It started to getting warmer in Germany today. So I had to ride a little bit :)

Today I reached a milage of 7,000 km. At that point you should make a service (regarding to the owners manual). But is this really necessary? What is to do at this service?
My dealer meant that a service is only necessary once a year or so because it's nearly maintenance free he said.

Thanks for tips.

 ;D

As rider7 already mentioned, I would check the belt for wear and tension regularly. Apart from that I would change the brake fluid once a year with the beginning of the season. A firmware update is also always a good thing.

You don't need to do service to maintain your warranty, as there's nothing which needs to be maintained. Nevertheless you can find the recommended intervals in your manual.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 05, 2017, 05:06:41 PM
Ok, that sounds quiet qood. Next month a have to go to the TÃœV - an official check institution.
They'll probably tell me too what make sense to check regularly on this type of motorcycle.
But the mentioned points I'll check these days by myself.

Thanks for your reply.

cu
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: vfx on March 06, 2017, 04:08:07 AM
It started to getting warmer in Germany today. So I had to ride a little bit :) 
Hey, by the way, nice little micro website you are running.
I like it.

I am glad that the Germans love the concept and buy this bike.

Rider7

Hey, thanks. Nice to hear that you like the site.
It's not completely done yet, of course.
And it's not professional. I just want to have my knowledge, my experiences and some nice pics and vids at a central place or storage. And domain costs at such a domain are as near as zero. So it's better than any NAS to me because "I" haven't to care about backups or hosting an own server and such things.

Have a nice week ....
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 06, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
+1 Please somebody with a 2017 take lots of clear pictures how the front brake lines are routed.  I am happy to do the how-to for my 2016 DSR if I know what to try?


Shadow


I attached the pictures I took today.
I hope they are good enough to make it clear how the routing is done on the 2017 model.



Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 06, 2017, 08:46:48 AM
Shadow,
I failed.
I have to admit that I am not too proud of my pictures, but I think you can see that the line from the caliper is simply curved under the instrument cover and attached with a clamp and then dives down back to the ABS and comes back up to the lever.
The ABS sensor wire simply splits off the break line into the connector.


So, I guess all you guys have to do is buy or make a shorter braided breakline that will fit under the cover.


Rider7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: rider7 on March 06, 2017, 08:53:13 AM
It started to getting warmer in Germany today. So I had to ride a little bit :)

Today I reached a milage of 7,000 km. At that point you should make a service (regarding to the owners manual). But is this really necessary? What is to do at this service?
My dealer meant that a service is only necessary once a year or so because it's nearly maintenance free he said.

Thanks for tips.

 ;D




This is the best part about this bike, besides all the other best parts.....
we are wondering what to inspect when the inspection is due.... hahahahahaha.... this is awesome.


Well, I did my close to 1,000 miles today which consisted of pretty much removing dust from any surface of the bike to lighten it up to get better electron mileage  ;D


Well, all I did is clean with lots of love and check the belt tension, bingo....


Rider7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 06, 2017, 09:14:59 AM
Oopsssss...... the commissioning and timing should be done at 600 miles, almost missed that.


I searched this forum a bit about that and will do some more before asking here.


Rider7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on March 06, 2017, 09:20:57 AM
Oopsssss...... the commissioning and timing should be done at 600 miles, almost missed that.

Yeah, that and firmware updates (pre-2017!) are the main items a dealer would do that an experienced motorcycle maintainer would not be equipped for.

Aside from that, they apply firmware updates, and then there's all the regular mechanical checks like bolts, steering, suspension, brakes, etc.

The wiki will get better about cataloguing all this stuff, but it's still 90% me remembering to write things down in my spare time that I learn here and elsewhere, so it takes time to build out.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 06, 2017, 09:28:45 AM
Brian,


thanks for feedback.


Come to think, my dealer here in Austin has never contacted me ever after the sale.
Weird customer tactique.


I guess he knows that he cannot make regular money off of me:)


If I cannot find good instructions and reasonable rental, I'll let them do the commissioning and timing.
I have seen some links in a thread about this, but still need to read and watch it.


I don't trust any dealership with any maintenance, but that is simply my paranoia.


I'd don't know that you are the person behind the zeromanual.


Amazing work Brian.
Thank you very much.


R7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: Shadow on March 06, 2017, 09:43:06 AM
Brian contributes a lot to the Zeromanual wiki. We all can edit and help too.

My dealership was not aware of the maintenance items that need to be done. I had to convince them to do the commissioning and firmware upgrade. I don't have proof that they did any of this work. There is no report to say what change in commissioning settings was seen. I trust the service manager more because we talked about the long time and unusual procedure of working together with Zero Motorcycles. I would do this work myself if it was known how.
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 07, 2017, 04:04:35 AM
I think the most important thing to look for is the drive belt.
The one moving the valves in a modern car engine has very often an exact proposed life time or change cycle. Whats about the drive belt used in the different Zero models? Is there a maximum life time or milage too? Except that it has to be replaced if a current inspection or know damage requires immediate replacement, of course.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 07, 2017, 08:18:38 PM
FYI: I finally found a suitable hosting package for my microsite.

Now it's online at the original URL and saving it as a fav resolves permanently to the right destination.

Now the real work can start.  ;D

Enjoy it. I'll do ...
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 08, 2017, 08:00:10 AM
FYI: I finally found a suitable hosting package for my microsite.

Now it's online at the original URL and saving it as a fav resolves permanently to the right destination.

Now the real work can start.  ;D

Enjoy it. I'll do ...


VFX,


Take a look at the attached screenshot from my iPad.


And all links are 404 ing.


I'll check on my laptop soon.



Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 08, 2017, 08:04:25 AM
But this must be a safari thing here, in adblock browser it shows perfectly.


No worries, I run content blocker on safari since I am allergic to intrusive adds.
Your site should still run though come to think.

I'll turn content blocker off real quick and check


R7
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 08, 2017, 08:09:23 AM
Yep, as soon as I turned adblock plus off, your site work.


Cool pix...


Sorry for the alarm....
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: rider7 on March 08, 2017, 08:14:32 AM
+1 Please somebody with a 2017 take lots of clear pictures how the front brake lines are routed.  I am happy to do the how-to for my 2016 DSR if I know what to try?


Shadow


I attached the pictures I took today.
I hope they are good enough to make it clear how the routing is done on the 2017 model.




Shadow,


at first I thought my pictures weren't good enough, but looking at them a day later, I think they are alright.

Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany
Post by: Shadow on March 08, 2017, 09:17:50 AM
+1 Please somebody with a 2017 take lots of clear pictures how the front brake lines are routed.  I am happy to do the how-to for my 2016 DSR if I know what to try?
Shadow
I attached the pictures I took today.
I hope they are good enough to make it clear how the routing is done on the 2017 model.
Shadow,
at first I thought my pictures weren't good enough, but looking at them a day later, I think they are alright.

Looks good to me. What fasteners and tools are needed to get there?  My 2016 DSR is under cover in a pile of snow, today. When there is less snow, then I will try to do comparison pictures the same you have done on the 2017 model.

In my opinion: The 2016 brake line routing being an obstruction to the view of the instrument panel, it should have been addressed with a fix by dealers. It's an annoying problem and is very common to hear complaints about. Hopefully we can make a detailed procedure to fix this like it is now on the 2017 model.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪 🏍 🔌
Post by: vfx on March 08, 2017, 04:59:57 PM
FYI: I finally found a suitable hosting package for my microsite.

Now it's online at the original URL and saving it as a fav resolves permanently to the right destination.

Now the real work can start.  ;D

Enjoy it. I'll do ...


VFX,


Take a look at the attached screenshot from my iPad.


And all links are 404 ing.


I'll check on my laptop soon.

This was the old page.

Beside that links to pictures, videos or external ressources are opened in a new window, because I don't like it if the followed link is opened in the same windows and the same tab and you always have to go back and forward and back and so on ......
I guess that's why some adblockers block the popups as the were used for unserious behaviours in the past.

But thanks for the info.
You're welcome.

 ;D
Title: Re: Zero DSR, Germany 🇩🇪
Post by: rider7 on March 13, 2017, 02:24:31 AM
Hello,

the TPMS manufacturer is Steelmate, the model is TP-90:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steelmate-DIY-TP-90-LED-TPMS-Motorrad-Reifendruckkontrollsystem-mit-2-Sensoren-/201659092604?hash=item2ef3d18e7c:g:Gc0AAOSw8oFXyV1G (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steelmate-DIY-TP-90-LED-TPMS-Motorrad-Reifendruckkontrollsystem-mit-2-Sensoren-/201659092604?hash=item2ef3d18e7c:g:Gc0AAOSw8oFXyV1G)

The other indicators are air temperature (red) and voltage display built into an USB power plug (to charge the iPhone and use it as navigation system) like this:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Auto-12-24V-Digital-Voltmeter-und-Thermometer-Zigarettenanzunder-USB-Ladegerat-/282098610251?hash=item41ae63304b:g:Y-oAAOSwImRYFvUm (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Auto-12-24V-Digital-Voltmeter-und-Thermometer-Zigarettenanzunder-USB-Ladegerat-/282098610251?hash=item41ae63304b:g:Y-oAAOSwImRYFvUm)

VFX and everybody interested. I will also post this on a new TPMS thread, since the old one was really old.

I installed the TPMS just now.

$69 bucks on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZME9Q2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZME9Q2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It is probably one of the simplest units out there.

You stick it into your cigarette style 12V power outlet on your dash, screw the caps on, tighten the counter nut and set the system up.

Now, the one thing, although the unit works with just two or even one or three sending units, the issue is that the ones not in use blink with a 0, but, black electrical tape or gaffer tape will do wonders to take that irritating blinking out of your face.
It has high, low pressure warnings and high temperature warnings.

The best part seems to be that it gives you an instant reading right after you power the ignition on. But I might be mistaken. I have not ridden it yet.

For $70 bucks with no wires to install whatsoever, if this unit keeps on working fine, I will buy one for my truck and my second bike too.

R7