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Title: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: xmjsilverx on April 28, 2015, 07:41:19 AM
I got my r&g tidy tail and got it mounted up.  I have yet to wire it.  I am having mixed feelings about it.  I didn't like it at first but now it's growing on me.  Then I watched a video of and SR with the stock rear fender and thought maybe that does look better than the r&g.  I don't know, what are your opinions?  Sorry for the crappy pics.
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Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: nigezero on April 28, 2015, 08:28:16 AM
I like that they accentuate the tail and that's good. However, I just put my stock unit back on co's I was sick of getting a wet backpack in the slightest rain
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: evtricity on April 28, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
The tail tidy looks way better although I  agree it provides no wet road spray protection. However,  the stock fender doesn't help much in that regard with that big gap down the middle.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Zorgalouf on April 28, 2015, 02:36:33 PM
I would really like to see something like that (http://moto.caradisiac.com/Access-Design-bavette-arriere-pour-XJR1300-et-XJR1300-Racer-2015-022) for a Zero. I think it could be nice and useful with a small fender.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Justin Andrews on April 28, 2015, 06:04:36 PM
Tail tidies are great, right up to the point where you ride in the rain, and your back gets coated in water and road grit.  8)
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: vinceherman on April 28, 2015, 08:28:56 PM
I would really like to see something like that (http://moto.caradisiac.com/Access-Design-bavette-arriere-pour-XJR1300-et-XJR1300-Racer-2015-022) for a Zero. I think it could be nice and useful with a small fender.

YES!!!
This makes the bobbed tail workable.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Justin Andrews on April 29, 2015, 02:32:10 AM
Personally if I could get my hands on something like this for my Zero, I'd create a full mudguard that then went to the existing hugger. Help stop the spray going up near the electrics.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Bueller on April 29, 2015, 02:55:17 AM
I love the look of the tidy tail. I do wish the hugger provided more coverage, like on my Buell.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: xmjsilverx on April 29, 2015, 07:16:38 AM
I am confused, you guys do realize this is for the zero correct?
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Cortezdtv on April 29, 2015, 07:23:25 AM
Manufacturers cannot produce road bikes to sell publically that don't have the lights/reflectorsout past the center of the wheel
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Justin Andrews on April 29, 2015, 12:29:21 PM
I am confused, you guys do realize this is for the zero correct?

Sorry, but I'm finding your post is a bit vague, what *this* are you referring too?  :-\   
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: xmjsilverx on April 29, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
"This" is the topic of my thread.  The r&g tidy tail, also called the fender eliminator.  It removes the rear fender/plate holder and replaces it with a more compact design.  I am confused when a few people state, "I wish something like this was available for the zero."  It is available.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Justin Andrews on April 29, 2015, 05:43:38 PM
Yeah, I have the R&G on my Zero too, I think the other people were talking about the rear hugger in this link;
http://moto.caradisiac.com/Access-Design-bavette-arriere-pour-XJR1300-et-XJR1300-Racer-2015-022 (http://moto.caradisiac.com/Access-Design-bavette-arriere-pour-XJR1300-et-XJR1300-Racer-2015-022)


Which is also something I'd like to see for the Zero, as having the tail tidy on causes problems with spray in the wet...
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Doug S on April 29, 2015, 08:15:12 PM
Honestly, I've never understood why mfrs got rid of their wheel-hugger fenders and went with frame-mounted, higher fenders on their street bikes anyhow. I find it very much a "dirt bike" look, and out of place on a street bike. Okay, yes, a wheel-hugger has a little more unsprung weight, but why isn't that seen as a problem on the front wheel?

In addition to being much more effective against spray, I just like the look of the wheel huggers better on street bikes.

Then again, I think 22-inch car wheels look ridiculous, too, so maybe I'm just behind the times.

Also, I've been caught in the rain a few times (I don't purposely ride in weather, but it does happen sometimes), and I get no spray at all. I have the rack and trunk installed on my bike, which seems to be far more effective at catching spray than the stock "fender" is.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Justin Andrews on April 29, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
I'm seriously considering removing my tail tidy, and refitting the original tail (with the center gap filled) until I can make or find a proper full rear wheel hugger. The amount of water spray & grit going up onto the rear of my bike and my back is unfunny, and I'm slightly concerned that water from this spray might be getting under the seat and into the controller enclosure under the seat.
Title: Re: Tidy Tail or not? (fender eliminator)
Post by: Killroy on December 13, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
How does that plastic fender with the hole in the center protect you from spray?

Draw a line tangent to the wheel the tail.  The line would never hit your back.  They you have to consider that any motion forward would make the spray from the tire go back like a rooster tail.

Spray on your back is probably coming from other vehicles or your front tire and the air turbulence is depositing  the spray and grit on your back.  Think how the back of a car gets dusty on a long trip.

That is my guess.  I would like to see some video of the spray getting around the tail to your back from the wheel.