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Title: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on April 28, 2014, 10:44:33 PM
for our S, made a carbon fibre tail top&bottom and a front light cover
for the moment, it is real carbon but laminated on the Original part.  might be that i will make some more, perhaps complete carbon 8)

hope you like it...
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/klaasmartens/DSCF4999_zpsd13ccec9.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/klaasmartens/media/DSCF4999_zpsd13ccec9.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/klaasmartens/DSCF4995_zps71c39f87.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/klaasmartens/media/DSCF4995_zps71c39f87.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/klaasmartens/DSCF5002_zps40c14afb.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/klaasmartens/media/DSCF5002_zps40c14afb.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/klaasmartens/DSCF5003_zpsd8f02db7.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/klaasmartens/media/DSCF5003_zpsd8f02db7.jpg.html)

Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: Le Z Turbo on April 28, 2014, 11:24:13 PM
It's great, very good looking indeed !!! Congrat !!!
Laurent
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: DesignerDan on April 29, 2014, 12:17:10 AM
Looks beautiful! Great job!
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: protomech on April 29, 2014, 01:49:35 AM
Zero sells an expensive carbon fiber rear cowl.

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_18&products_id=177 (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_18&products_id=177)

I like your pieces though :)
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on April 29, 2014, 05:02:46 PM
thanks for the replys 8)

problem is the labor cost for these parts, think that is also the problem with the rear cowl from zero...

extra is the not that cheap material cost...
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: GNU on April 29, 2014, 10:24:30 PM
Wow! That looks great!

How much time would you say you invested?
Have you made carbon fiber parts before?
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on April 30, 2014, 01:15:36 AM
yes, made several carbon parts before

my job includes also a lot of work on cars, motorbikes, ...

for the moment, the parts are laminated on the Original, a mould isn't interesting at this time

planning to make a 2nd pair, will count how many hours i worked on it...
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: biolife on April 30, 2014, 07:53:00 AM
I'm also interested to hear how long this takes - it looks really nice!
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on April 30, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
will keep you updated 8)

also thinking about making other parts like fenders, ...
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on June 16, 2014, 01:21:58 PM
one better pic of the carbon headlight cover
http://www.ekr8.be/zonneproducten/elektrisch-op-de-weg/ (http://www.ekr8.be/zonneproducten/elektrisch-op-de-weg/)

need to work on new versions!! i ordered a 'gas'tank to cover with carbon also...

Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: krash7172 on June 17, 2014, 02:16:25 AM
Make something to replace the silly storage compartment! I would pay $$$ for a black or carbon fiber locking lid.
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: vfkf on June 17, 2014, 07:39:41 AM
Make something to replace the silly storage compartment! I would pay $$$ for a black or carbon fiber locking lid.
2x$$$.
There is enough unused room in there to store my rain suit, lock, and lunch then ride without backpack.
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on June 17, 2014, 12:28:02 PM
so you would like to get rid of the storage compartment?...

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/klaasmartens/2014-Zero-S-Tank-460x306_zpsf12cfa9a.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/klaasmartens/media/2014-Zero-S-Tank-460x306_zpsf12cfa9a.jpg.html)

have a 'tank' here, havn't looked at it yet, don't think it will be a major problem to get rid of it...
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: krash7172 on June 17, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
No, make it into a real storage compartment like a Honda NC700.

Dubster, if I made a lid out of stainless steel sheet metal, could you use it as a form to produce CF ones?
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on June 18, 2014, 01:57:25 PM
it is possible to make a template to make carbon parts.

the problem with carbon is time... if i have to make a mold for just 1 item, it costs hours of work! i can also laminate on the original...

ok, technicaly, it isn't a ultra-light piece but just for the looks it is perfect...

Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: Burton on June 18, 2014, 06:59:00 PM
Dubster you just make a mold just like you would with fiberglass.

Start wit ha plug, aka the part in this case, make a mold around it and you can make a lot more parts from it later.

-Burton
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: krash7172 on June 19, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
Dubs, your work is professional. Keep it up! I am going to start a new thread / rant about Zero giving us a real storage solution. I don't want to hijack your thread. I wanna see the CF tank when you are done :)
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on June 19, 2014, 12:29:54 PM
Dubster you just make a mold just like you would with fiberglass.

Start wit ha plug, aka the part in this case, make a mold around it and you can make a lot more parts from it later.

-Burton

burton, i know the procedure 8)  comes to the same conclusion as writen above, making a good mold takes time and money. for 1 piece not interesting
i'm not doing it for the money but as i see more 'emotorcycleforum-members' are interested, can make a mold of some pieces

keep you updated!!

Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: Doug S on July 23, 2014, 01:01:29 AM
Dubster, those parts are stunning! No comparison to the cheesy molded plastic.

May I ask, did you use a prepreg or did you lay them up by hand? If you laid them up by hand, did you use epoxy, polyester or what? Do you have to vacuum bag or can it just air-cure? I've got a fair amount of experience laying up fiberglass, and I seriously hate the rinky-dink plastic look of my SR. If I thought I could do as good a job as you've done I'd be ALL OVER it.
Title: Re: made carbon parts for the 2013/2014 S
Post by: dubster on August 11, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Dubster, those parts are stunning! No comparison to the cheesy molded plastic.

May I ask, did you use a prepreg or did you lay them up by hand? If you laid them up by hand, did you use epoxy, polyester or what? Do you have to vacuum bag or can it just air-cure? I've got a fair amount of experience laying up fiberglass, and I seriously hate the rinky-dink plastic look of my SR. If I thought I could do as good a job as you've done I'd be ALL OVER it.

thanks!! the carbon is layed up by hand and than covered with epoxy.  after that (and also because i had to do some other parts) I wet-sanded it and sprayed a 2C varnish on it but that isn't necessary.

i have the possibility to vacuum bag parts, I have some other zero parts to do ('gas'tank,...)and it might be possible that i will do them with vacuum to save time!

basicly, carbon + epoxy is the same procedure as polyester ...

if you have questions, don't hesitate!!