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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on May 31, 2013, 08:09:27 AM
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The official Zero top rack arrived with the Givi E340 Monolock top case (http://www.giviusa.com/cases-top-case/Monolock-/E340-VISION). Installation took just a couple of allen wrenches (5mm to get the seat bolts off, 4mm for the rack mount bolts, 5mm again to mount the monolock plate) and additionally a wrench and screwdriver for the monolock plate mount.
I spent about 20 minutes total on the installation, rather leisurely, really. I suppose my one point of confusion which the instructions didn't clarify was whether the rubber-bumpered part of the tail mount went over or under the end of the tail. I placed it on top for the ride home but it seemed slightly wrong. Pictures attached show what I mean.
EDIT: I re-examined it close up, and it's clearly meant to rest on the tail and not under it, given the angle of the bracket for that rubber bumper. Also, the bars don't admit any upward motion so I don't feel like there's a danger of it "lifting" off of the tail. So I'm leaving it as-is unless I get official advice otherwise.
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It's interesting that the photos from the product page (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=161) are for the 2012 version which mounts a bit differently from this. I think this year's top rack is a bit sleeker and better looking. I also like the E340 since it fits my large helmet plus probably my rain pants. My 13-inch laptop fits easily, but not my messenger bag, which is rigid lengthwise so is a tad too wide for it.
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From the Police fleet model photos (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/fleet/police/) (here, specifically (http://media.zeromotorcycles.com/gallery-2013/zero-police/studio/large/2013_zero-police_detail_rp-rear_777x555_gallery.jpg)), it looks like the rack is meant to rest atop the tail in the way I installed it.
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I think too on top make more sense.
I can warm to put a top case to my 2012DS but if I see storing the helmet in it! Its a nice feature.
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I should point out that my main goal with this mod is to get my girlfriend on regularly as a passenger. That means carrying her helmet (or handbag while riding) with me sometimes and having some grab bars and a backrest so that she doesn't feel like I'll torque the bike out from under her while she's perched on that tail seat. ;D
This setup seems to handle that fine, although I'll know for sure this weekend with the weather projected to be nice.
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I have a Givi universal top box installed on my R1200R and I find that it is very useful. But I sure wish someone would design a sliding rack that would allow you to slide the box over the passenger seat when not carrying a passenger in order to better center the weight on the bike. Plus, I'll bet having the box at the back of the rider gives a more efficient air flow and less drag than when the box is just hanging by itself off of the end of the bike.
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It should also protect against rain splash from the back tire, something that drives me crazy! Nice job.
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It should also protect against rain splash from the back tire, something that drives me crazy! Nice job.
Oh, did you notice the dirt on my back seat there? My driveway opens out onto a gravel alley, so I am also going to check this as a mudguard.
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I have a Givi universal top box installed on my R1200R and I find that it is very useful. But I sure wish someone would design a sliding rack that would allow you to slide the box over the passenger seat when not carrying a passenger in order to better center the weight on the bike. Plus, I'll bet having the box at the back of the rider gives a more efficient air flow and less drag than when the box is just hanging by itself off of the end of the bike.
I've been a happy Givi top-box user since I got into the V-Strom over 5 years ago. I doubt we'll ever see a top rack that slides forward, just because of production complexity, but on trips I often fill in the space between my back and the case with a laundry bag for this reason.
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I suppose I should mention that side-case rack mounts should arrive in another couple of weeks. I've ordered them with SW-Motech mounting points so that I can re-use the Aero (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/bags-connection-aero-abs-sidecase-system) cases that I bought to interchange with my V-Strom's TraX rack. They're quite aerodynamic and should be a nicer look than the Givi E-21's used for the police fleet models.
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Hi Brian,
Based on the pictures, your installation looks good. Thanks for posting them and let us know how it works for you.
Regards,
Aaron
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Based on the pictures, your installation looks good. Thanks for posting them and let us know how it works for you.
Thanks for confirming! The case works great, and my passengers give the backrest and grab bars good reviews. They're used to a slightly larger seat area on my V-Strom, so it's cozy but comfortable. Notably, I was able to talk to my passenger while moving around downtown at 35mph or so, which was really quite nice, because the Zero is amazingly quiet.
I just picked up the side racks today, and there's no diagram for assembly, so I'm going to work based on the fleet police studio photos on the website (and some experience putting on Givi racks before) unless someone can provide any technical hints. :)
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I just picked up the side racks today, and there's no diagram for assembly, so I'm going to work based on the fleet police studio photos on the website (and some experience putting on Givi racks before) unless someone can provide any technical hints. :)
I received PDF instructions today thanks to my dealer contacting Zero. The instructions look really clear so I will try this again this weekend. It looks like it will be really straightforward, less than an hour's work.
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20 minutes! Tsk. I had them install it and it took them an hour (which may be their minimum). My son says he keeps bumping the backrest when he rides with me. I need to be smoother when I accelerate, methinks... since there's no sound of revving to prepare a passenger. I'll have to post pictures. :)
I'm getting my wheels powdercoated next weekend though. I might not get Darth Zero back until end of week. :/
Cheers!
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Pic of Darth Zero with his new top box. :) I like my Givi case a lot. It does rattle though, but I am thinking this is normal since the bike is so quiet....
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Pic of Darth Zero with his new top box. :) I like my Givi case a lot. It does rattle though, but I am thinking this is normal since the bike is so quiet....
I could hear my passenger helmet rattle around in the case, but I just put a little soft padding (re-usable grocery bags) in there and that more or less silenced it.
That said, the bike is quiet enough that I can hear turn signal clicking, tire sound on pavement, and fork motion over bumps!
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I just picked up the side racks today, and there's no diagram for assembly, so I'm going to work based on the fleet police studio photos on the website (and some experience putting on Givi racks before) unless someone can provide any technical hints. :)
I received PDF instructions today thanks to my dealer contacting Zero. The instructions look really clear so I will try this again this weekend. It looks like it will be really straightforward, less than an hour's work.
Wow, so this was not simple. The passenger footrest mounting bolts become nearly inaccessible after adding the luggage bracket, so they're very difficult to re-torque. Thankfully my dealer's mechanic was nice enough to spend 10 minutes getting together an appropriately articulated socket setup to finish the job (I had gotten the lower bolts hand-tight and then ran the bike over to the dealer). Other parts of the job were often awkward but not difficult. I'll post pictures and details soon (beyond these dusk photos), but I now have three cases.
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Nice, I would never give up mine!
So have fun and don't over load it ;D
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Zero has posted the side rack package (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=180) to their web store.
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Wow, they posted a lot of new accessoires on their website!
new windscreens, high/low gearing options and more.
Heated seat even!
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Here is a link to the heated seat: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=183 (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=183)
I find this interesting, not because the seat is heated (I don't need that), but because the seat is made by Sargent and not Corbin. I have a Sargent seat on my F650GS and love it. It is very well made (as good, if not better than the stock BMW seat - and much better than any Corbin seat that I have owned) and much more comfortable than the stock seat. I just came back from a 1,750 mile ride on my BMW, to and around eastern Oregon, and the seat kept me happy. The stock seat gives me a pain after about 2 hours. Hopefully this Sargent seat will work as well for 2013 Zero owners. If I had a 2013 model I would buy one. The Sargent seat for my BMW set me back $450, so the Zero seat is a very good deal, especially for a low volume item and one that is heated. (Try pricing a Corbin heated seat sometime.) ::)
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The support frame for the top case does not look extremely solid from the photo's. Also the bit leaning on the plastic fender seems like it could cause the plastic to crack after hitting a bump.
How does it feel in real life, is it rock solid? How much weight can you carry, could it hold a laptop and lock (say about 10kg total weight) and survive a bump?
Thanks
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The support frame for the top case does not look extremely solid from the photo's. Also the bit leaning on the plastic fender seems like it could cause the plastic to crack after hitting a bump.
How does it feel in real life, is it rock solid? How much weight can you carry, could it hold a laptop and lock (say about 10kg total weight) and survive a bump?
Yeah, it certainly did seem that way when I first installed it. But the bars are held by two sets of bolts, one horizontal for the seat mount and one vertical in front of that, so there's some vertical firmness.
I can't tell whether fatigue on the tail section will be a problem in the future, but it's not bearing a lot of weight and there's a rubbery cover over the metal bit that sits on the tail. So it seems fine to me, if not an ideal design.
Regarding capacity, so far, I've carried groceries or a helmet and laptop, and it feels solid and within the specification. I do have the dual sport suspension but I live in Seattle with its potholes particularly on the gravel alley leading to my driveway.
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It should also protect against rain splash from the back tire, something that drives me crazy! Nice job.
Oh, did you notice the dirt on my back seat there? My driveway opens out onto a gravel alley, so I am also going to check this as a mudguard.
After some rain recently, it does seem like the top rack makes an adequate mudguard, at least for the passenger seat and my jacket. :)